I think Judah layed the best blueprint on how to beat Floyd

Not many people have Judah's handspeed, and that was a key part of why he was effective in those early rounds. The southpaw stance made things a little more awkward for Mayweather too. To sit back and try to outbox a guy who is very fast, crafty and has great boxing skills isn't an easy thing to pull off, which is why so many people just try to use pressure. Judah had the speed, style and stance to give Mayweather trouble for a while, but he didn't have the conditioning, ring intelligence, composure and skills to match Mayweather down the stretch. Judah showed that he can sit back and counter, but he's usually less effective when the opponent puts consistent pressure on him and pushes him backwards for the whole fight. He tends to crumble under the pressure. I'm sure Mayweather or at least his trainer looked at the Tszyu and Baldomir fights and noticed this pretty quickly.

I can't think of many people who can use the Judah 'blueprint' against Mayweather. Khan has the speed, but he doesn't have the skill. Pac also has the speed, but he doesn't have the right style, as he's an aggressive fighter. Cotto managed to outbox Mayweather in round six by moving and using the jab, but he couldn't keep it up. Canelo tried to box and counter and failed.

 

Well for the record I thought ray Leonard beat hagler more convincingly than floyd beat de la Hoya

So de la Hoya in his prime would. Bat floyd easily

 

...win three rounds and then have a total meltdown? :huh

This blueprint seems more like a kindergartner's crayon scribble to me...

 

and that just about sums up this pointless thread. People talk about a boxing brain, and strategy, but forget that a strategy is only good if the fighter is confident enough to follow the game plan, i.e. applying pressure even if it means losing rounds. It could also be to let your opponent gas.

Way to come in and /thread.

 

Zab held the stylistic advantage in that fight. He was a natural counter puncher with a good jab with the ability to beat PBF to the punch and he gave PBF problems early because of it. With that said PBF said he knew Zab was a front-runner and he would either gas or fall apart mentally. PBF made adjustments knew Zab couldn't handle pressure and started to walk him down he broke him down and beat him up. This fight was an underrated win for PBF due to stylistic reasons.

 

Funny how Canelo, whom De La Hoya anointed the newer better version of himself (even going so far as to castrate himself with the boast that Canelo would have given him a "beating" in his active days :-() was thoroughly unable to apply this blueprint with any effectiveness.

Is the problem the blueprint, or the man utilizing it?

...because either way, Oscar was incorrect (or bullshitting) about something.

 

Getting hit in the mouth repeatedly tends to have that affect on people.

 

De la Hoya in his prime would of fought in Floyds home of 147 and we all know how that story is written.

 

Right. But magically, around Round 5, 'it wasn't the night for the jab', all of a sudden for DLH. The same jab that had been his most successful weapon up to that point.

Yeah, Judah just magically stopped punching and ODLH just magically stopped jabbing, all on their own. Funny how that works. :verysad