Mikey Garcia P4P

Handed out to promoted projects :deal

Garcia = Pacman big fight
Broner = Mayweather big fight

Chris John NO P4P handouts = No plans in HBO/Showtime

Rigo has to be very careful, because next close fight he will lose & be dropped forever.

 

Broner is talented, but pound for pound tenth best in boxing today?

Broner ain't.

Garcia, however, is.

 

he was already in my £4£ top 5!

i wrote on his twitter ages ago that he'll dominate the lightweight divisions

 

Chris John is in the same class as Pacman & Mayweather, he just fights guys who are outside the commercial network. (better than Martinez or the guys Broner feasted on)

Chris John been doing it for a decade

He had his ventures in the US owned JMM, Gainer (lineal & #1 Feathers at the time), fought Rocky twice, drawing then winning clearly in the rematch (high ring IQ = always improve in rematches)

Broner & Garcia are the creation of HBO, they are good but as good as any other title holder.

Chris John is his own creation, which means he doesn't get the hype other fighters get.

Reality is Chris John is on the same situation Larry Holmes is 48-0 & walking into a fight vs an underrated guy. Hopefully he comes on top and finishes off at 50-0, record 20 title defenses at Feather, GOAT Feather hands down

Your hype jobs will be forgotten as fast as they were created...guys like Chris John don't just go away, they become part of boxing history and will have people writing books about him.

Nothing wrong with hype jobs, aslong as they don't discount the real ATGs

 

My p4p:

FMJ
Ward
Bradley
Danny 'Swift' Garcia
Carl Froch
JMM
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After that, I think it quickly gets extremely vague. Rigo, one p4p level fight. Sergio, needs to show he can return at 100% and start fighting again before you can confidently say hes still operating at elite level. PAC? Only still considered p4p out of habit as far as I can tell. Even beating Rios, himself coming off a loss wont help unless its a dominating performance.

Broner? Dont make me laugh. Alvarez? Guy has some OK wins, I think he will likely make it on in the future. Wlad? Probably top 10 somewhere, but its hard to quantify relative skill in a p4p list when his primary skill has been usage of his weight. Which is a skill, and Wlad is a skilled dude but its very hard to theorycraft him the way you can 130~160 lbers. Donaire? Maybe, not convinced he still has it - tonights bout was a showcase.

Guys who I think might prove they belong/still belong, or crack open a spot as top elites of the sport in 2014:

Rigo, Sergio, Donaire , PAC- depending on who and how well they fight. Can they prove they are able and going to continue to perform at the highest levels? If yes, then they deserve continuing p4p recognition. Rigo needs to prove he wasnt a one match wonder and can be consistent. Donaire that he still has it, same with PAC. I am less familiar with the depth of lighter classes. But for PAC, definitively winning a Bradley rematch puts PAC back at the top. If Sergio can get back 100% and dispatch Rubio in style, and then GGG afterwards hes right up there with Ward IMO.

Alvarez, Mikey Garcia, GGG - up and comers. For Alvarez, he had his big chance but getting shut out by FMJ does not qualify one as true p4p. But he is young and will likely improve and assuredly have big fights in the future. Going by his typical fight weight, he should be at MW anyhow.

Garcia and GGG largely in the same boat - both unbeaten, both look good and even dominant in all their recent matches. Both in need of defining wins against at least fringe p4p level elites, or cleaning out the top of their divisions in dominant fashion to credibly make the cut.

 

Lol So Chris John stands at the pinnacle of this era? Amongst Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones? haha. You must be the only guy to know this. Privileged position.