Mikey Garcia P4P

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  1. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quality peformance,Martinez showed a great chin too.
     
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  2. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd not only fought inside one country but he only fought in one town because he and his advisors have the hometown judges and the city in their back pockets through the tax revenue. A blind man can see how corrupt this sport is and Mayweather and the hometown judges working together is no exception.
     
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  3. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think Chris John and his Indonesian counter parts are any better ??

    At least Floyds got the skills to back it up.
     
    Jquik, Nov 10, 2013
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  4. kirk

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    Youre lost.... but its ok.

    Time will show me right. Mikey is no p4p'er, and it will show within two years, depending on how they match him. Him, Canelo, and Broner.

    As for Nonito and JMM, you seemingly lack the comprehension to understand why I was making that comparison on that specific point, which was due to parameters of inclusion that YOU brought up lol. Obviously JMM is a p4p'er, which is why I ranked him as one in the first place :patsch

    ya bye :lol:
     
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  5. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no comparison thats why I dont understand it.

    JMM in

    Donaire out

    Its prett simple.

    So tell me why you would put Donaire in there and not Mikey?

    Elaborate.
     
    Jquik, Nov 10, 2013
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  6. kirk

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    I could take Donaire out of there, no problem. I said he was in there by default because I don't think the other up and comers (this includes Mikey) have done enough to really overtake his position right now. But I think Donaire is overrated, and that hes also losing form on top of that. I also think his record is somewhat overrated too (slightly).

    But, why is he in there instead of Mikey? Because Mikey hasn't done enough, or shown high enough quality in what he did do, for me to rank him p4p yet.

    If he continues his success through 2014, and Donaire stalls (which is highly possible) or loses again (another big possibility, maybe even probability), then Id have no problem ranking Mikey over him.

    But right now, he hasn't done enough, imo.



    * Whats your p4p list

    * Why exactly do you rate Mikey, over Swift? If you do. Not saying its gospel that swift should be ahead, but I want to see why someone would rank Mikey over him, when Swift has the much better single win (Matthysse). And with Khan n Judah not being that much worse then most of Mikeys opponents, let alone solid, dangerous gatekeepers like Holt.

    Again, not saying its gospel that Swift gets rated over him, but Id want to see why exactly someone values Mikey and what hes doing over Swift.
     
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  7. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well in terms of what theyve accomplished in their respective weight divisions,Mikey Garcia and Danny Garcia are on pretty even grounds.You've got to remember that Mikey has moved up in weight and won another title stopping a good solid champion in Roman Martinez.It just so happens that the Jr WW division has been one of the most popular weight classes in recent years therefore of course Danny is gonna get more recognition and his win over Matthysse is probably the most impressive of the year so far.

    Anyway heres my list Mikey is in there regardless of what you think,your gonna be eating your words when this kid is moving up through the divisions knocking people out.

    Mayweather
    Ward
    Bradley
    Wlad
    Martinez
    JMM
    Danny Garcia
    Manny Pacquiao
    Rigondeaux
    Mikey Garcia
     
    Jquik, Nov 10, 2013
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  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Mikey is a boss. HOF potential.
     
    bballchump11, Nov 10, 2013
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  9. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    garcia and broner aren't even in the top 20.. what's wrong with you guys
     
    Richel Hersisia, Nov 10, 2013
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  10. jcairns1

    jcairns1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch doesn't belong on anybodys P4P list lol, got a gift against Dirrell and schooled by Ward and bashed up by a past his best Kessler, his best wins are an overrated Pascal and a washed up Kessler in their rematch.

    Danny Garcia deserves to be in the P4P
     
    jcairns1, Nov 10, 2013
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  11. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pp4 lists are often jokes no way is Broner or Canelo on them, Both Mikey and Danny Garcia should be, also i'd take off JMM he is done IMO
     
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  12. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was thinking about this after watching the fight yesterday. I'd say Garcia is certainly on the cosp of being top ten P4P. I'd still give the nod to guys like Marquez, Martinez, Donaire, Hopkins, Garcia and Alvarez over him. I'd have Garcia rank'd around 15-20 in the world right now but I think he has the potential in the future of becoming a consensus top 10 pound for pound fighter.
     
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  13. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    P4P lists are all bull****. Might as well call them my favorite boxers list. Everyone has a ****ing list. There is not criteria for a P4P list
     
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  14. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That said, Mickey Garcia is one of my favorites right now. And yes, I am Rican
     
    Ricky369, Nov 10, 2013
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  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's interesting, would you name one fight in Vegas that Mayweather actually lost. Wasn't the Canelo fight in Vegas? It didn't appear he had the judges or ref in that one. Ask C.J. I'll tell you what a blind man can see, and that's the bull**** you are putting out in your posts.
     
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