New Book - The Choynski Chronicles

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  1. mcvey

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    Yes it's, " why, back in my day,we" -----
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    You're off your rocker on the Fitz thread as I showed you Johnson was cut a few times without even doing much research. :deal Since you can't even acknowledge that there is little upside in accepting a challenge from a guy who has trouble admiting mistakes, and sometimes runs from them. When cornered you go off tangent or play the race card. Nothing new to see here.

    Back to point on this thread. No, Choynski's problem was not lack of size. He was bigger than Fitz, and if he hit as hard as you think, why did he not stop Corbett, Fitz or Sharkey?

    If you carefully examine Choynski's record, you'll see he faced plenty of journeyman that he did not put away. This is not the mark of a puncher at all. Punchers bounce limited opponents out of there. Choynski did not.
     
  3. mcvey

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    You have called me a liar .
    I have asked you to prove it by posting .
    ONE LIE I HAVE MADE IN NEARLY 19 ,000 POSTS!
    IN RETURN I WILL POST SIX OF YOURS, THAT IS THE CHALLENGE!
    STILL WAITING !
    I have absolutely NO RACIAL BIAS. I was married to a Jew,and have several West Indian ,and Indian friends. I am colour blind as far as boxing, and indeed society is concerned.
    I do not believe that this applies to you hovever.
    I HAVE NEVER RUN AWAY FROM ANYTHING. ONE OF MY FANTASIES WOULD BE TO BE CORNERED BY YOU .YOU YELLOW GUTTED CUR.

    "Standing only 5'10", Choynski never weighed over 172 pounds for a fight. Yet, he was considered a devastating puncher. Jack Johnson contended, "Choynski could paralyze you even if he didn't catch you flush." In retrospect, his greatest victory was over a young Johnson on February 25, 1901 in Galveston, Texas. Choynski knocked out the future legend in the third round. Much later, Johnson claimed that Choynski was the hardest hitter of the previous fifty years, stating, "I think his left hook was much more effective than Dempsey's or Louis's." Both Choynski and Johnson were arrested after the fight and spent 28 days locked up in prison before making bail."


    "History has recorded that Choynski was a terrific hitter. He belonged to that special group of fighters whose hitting skills and power far exceeded their size. Other members of this group include Bob Fitzsimmons, Jack Dempsey, Sam Langford, Stanley Ketchel, Joe Walcott, Terry McGovern, Jimmy Wilde, and Bob Satterfield."
    Tracy Callis.



    Four heavyweight champions, and a leading contender all are unanimous that Joe Choynski was the hardest hitter they ever met.
    That is concrete and definitive testimony to any sane person.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Just because you are dragging your dirt into other threads, I'll reply once.

    Yes--you have said one thing, then forgot and contradicted yourself with something else. I'm not going to spend hours searching for them if the posts are still here, but I will list a few of the hilarious examples:

    You claimed you had a 137 IQ. Doubtful, as I have seen your math here.

    You spoke of being married in the present tense, then one day spoke of a girlfriend. Then back peddled saying you were divorced ( Which I believe ) for years.

    You went dark for months when we were supposed to meet up, registered under the poster name Boucher ( Others laughed ), and then came back late claiming you had some sort of surgery but you never said what it was! Care to disclose, er lie about it now?

    I once laughed that you were posting at 3AM your time, and your retort was you were hunting rabbits. Surely it must be fun in the dark!

    Happy? Have a good one Mc!
     
  5. mcvey

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    I was married for over 20 years , have been divorced for over 10 years and have been in a " live in" relationship with a lady for over 7 years .
    NO CONTRADICTION THERE.
    I was in hospital and had surgery.
    Power Puncher and I corresponded ,[he offered to substitute and beat the **** out of you], I told him I looked forward to doing it myself.

    I tried to contact you numerous times when I learned you were visiting this country I left both private and public messages for you, to which you did not respond.
    I asked you for details of your flight and flight times you ignored my requests , despite posting on this site the very same day I asked for them .

    After telling us you "punched a ton", you crept into, and out of the UK like the gutless coward you are.

    None on this site knew you had even been in the UK until you were safely back home.
    All of this is easliy verified , so be very careful lying about it.


    The nature of my surgery is my own business.I sometimes post in the early hours, as I have said I am retired and have been for nearly 10 years now. I often go hunting late at night ,for an ignorant twat like you ,I will explain.

    It involves either running a dog from a slip , or shooting from a 4x4 , if the former I use a million candle power powerpack on a belt

    If the latter either infra red , or a vehicle mounted laser light. Now you have learned something dumbass.

    Regarding my I Q ,If you trawl back you will note that I was replying to a question not bragging.
    You will also note that I played it down saying I don't set much store by IQ figures and neither do I. My partners tested IQ is higher than mine and several friends have IQ.s in the Mensa range [two are members of it]contrary to what you posted 137 is NOT genius level at all.

    For the record I consider myself of average intelligence and yourself in the sub- normal spectrum
    You can neither read or write properly , nor fashion a cohesive argument.
    I have four dogs , all of whom I consider smarter than you.

    My challenge is still there.
    POST ONE LIE OF MINE, AND I'LL POST SIX OF YOURS IN RETURN.

    The clocks ticking.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I have always read that Choynski was a terrific puncher … Fitz said it, Jeffries said it, Johnson said it .. that's enough for me ..
     
  7. burt bienstock

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    Concur...
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    It must suck to be you. I know the truth, and the best part about it is you know that I know it. Keep lying and I'll call you out by your first name. Tony:hi:
     
  9. mcvey

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    Sharkey and Corbett both concurred on it ,that's enough for me too!
     
  10. mcvey

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    Still waiting for you to take up my challenge, yellow streak.
    ps My first name is Anthony ,and it is for my friends ,not trash like you.
     
  11. he grant

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    I just got the book in the mail and it looks terrific … definitely in a Pollack/Compton style … have no idea if there is that much on Joe but I"m assuming it covers the man, his opponents and his era ..
     
  12. mcvey

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    He definitely deserves a book.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Well he certainly has one now !
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    And your middle name is coward. As in won't commit to a date, won't give out an email to coordinate, and disappears for three + months. Then you come back to say I had an undisclosed injury. Let me guess, was it your big toe :lol: .

    You make soooo many errors here its tough to tell if your just ignorant or lying. Like I said I'm not going to go through years of posts here, but I have pointed it out before and that's good enough for me.

    Recently you had no idea there was boxing in Nicaragua, and was off by only 2 years of Corbett's age in a fight. Keep up the good work!

    Sorry to the other posters who want to learn more about Choynski.

    What I can add here is Choynski can be seen on film sparring with Jeffries in 1910. Even as an old man, Choynski impressed with very fast feet and agility.
     
  15. mcvey

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    I knew there was boxing in Nicaragua but not how extensive it was ,one of my best friends is there. How could I not know Arguello was Nicaraguan?

    I asked you when you were coming to the UK?
    And on what flight you would be arriving?
    I sent you private and public messages on that issue, you did not reply.
    You asked for my e mail address on a completely separate matter, I told you I was not happy giving it to you.

    If you had any intention of meeting me in the Uk you had two options .
    1.Post a public message on this forum.
    2.Send a private message .

    I DID BOTH ,YOU DID NEITHER, YOU NEVER DISCLOSED YOU WERE HERE AND NO ONE ON THIS SITE KNEW YOU HAD BEEN UNTIL YOU WERE BACK IN THE US.

    .Now Ill tell you what you did ,you originally challenged me to a fight. I accepted and when I learned you were coming to the UK on holiday, I asked for your travel details .

    THREE TIMES, ON TWO OF THOSE OCCASIONS YOU POSTED ON HERE THE SAME DAY ,YET YOU DID NOT REPLY.
    I only live an hour from Gatwick and Heathrow airports and just needed your flight number to meet you.

    When you learned I was seriously intent on meeting you, and not for a spar but to punch your lying face in, you **** your trousers.

    Your excuse for not getting back to me was, and I quote , "who wants trouble at an airport"?
    So you have contradicted yourself already, you knew I wanted to meet you, and you also knew you wanted no part of it.

    You are nearly 30 years younger than me but did not have the balls when I called your bluff.
    Do you want me to trawl back and find the posts ?


    I knew you would ignore my recent challenge , just as you have ignored all the others.
    You are a lying, bigoted, coward, and that is why I despise you.