Top-100+ P4P GOATs by tiers according to me

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by [ LM ], Nov 12, 2013.


  1. [ LM ]

    [ LM ] New Member Full Member

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    I decided to make one of these (not including WMMA fighters or strawweights). I'm having trouble with ranking the Gracies and some of the old school guys (Severn, Frye, Vovchanchyn, etc.) Any comments welcome, but try to be constructive with it :good.

    Here it is (list subject to change):


    Fedor Emelianenko
    Anderson Silva
    Georges St-Pierre


    Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
    Matt Hughes


    Kazushi Sakuraba
    Mauricio Shogun
    Randy Couture
    Wanderlei Silva


    B.J. Penn
    Lyoto Machida
    Dan Henderson
    Quinton Jackson
    Jon Jones
    Jose Aldo
    Chuck Liddell


    Takanori Gomi
    Frankie Edgar
    Urijah Faber


    Gilbert Melendez
    Josh Barnett
    Mirko Filipovic
    Cain Velasquez
    Junior dos Santos


    Nate Marquardt
    Rashad Evans
    Tito Ortiz
    Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
    Rich Franklin
    Shinya Aoki
    Benson Henderson


    Dominick Cruz
    Jon Fitch


    Jake Shields
    Ricardo Arona
    Paulo Filho
    Miguel Torres


    Frank Shamrock
    Bas Rutten
    Mamoru Yamaguchi
    Yasuhiro Urushitani
    Shinichi Kojima
    Hayato Sakurai
    Guy Mezger


    Kiuma Kunioku
    Fabricio Werdum


    Masakatsu Funaki
    Vitor Belfort
    Sean Sherk
    Forrest Griffin
    Chael Sonnen
    Yuki Kondo


    Frank Mir
    Eddie Alvarez
    VĂ­tor Ribeiro
    Carlos Condit
    Gray Maynard
    Tatsuya Kawajiri
    Joachim Hansen


    Joseph Benavidez
    Demetrious Johnson
    Renan Barao
    Chris Weidman
    Anthony Pettis


    Mark Coleman
    Tim Sylvia
    Nick Diaz
    Gegard Mousasi
    Masakazu Imanari
    Hatsu Hioki
    Jeremy Horn
    Renato Sobral


    Matt Lindland
    Norifumi Yamamoto
    Alexandre Franca Nogueira
    Murilo Bustamante


    Josh Koscheck
    Diego Sanchez
    Alistair Overeem
    Johny Hendricks
    Daniel Cormier
    Kenny Florian
    Martin Kampmann
    Mike Brown
    Thiago Alves
    Yushin Okami
    Demian Maia


    Pat Miletich
    Andrei Arlovski
    Ronaldo Souza
    Karo Parisyan
    Matt Serra


    Caol Uno
    Jens Pulver
    Chad Mendes
    Brian Bowles
    Jussier Formiga
    Yuki Shojo


    Bibiano Fernandes
    Pat Curran
    Marlon Sandro
    Eduardo Dantas
    Eddie Wineland


    Alexander Gustafsson
    Phil Davis
    Marcus Aurelio
    Brock Lesnar
    Semmy Schilt
     
  2. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have never really thought much about MMA ATG lists so I don't know where I'd rate who in what, but your list looks pretty damn good.

    I see a few names I'd switch around here and there but nothing major, the tiers seem about right, and other than the old schools guys I can't see anyone notable missing.

    Good job :good
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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  4. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    few notable ones i would change,

    frank shamrock a few tiers higher, also tito ortiz a tier higher


    but good job
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is certainly better than anything I could have come up with. Great job.
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    nice to see a forum being courteous and respectful for a change! :)
     
  7. dogcatcher

    dogcatcher Active Member Full Member

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    I like the idea but think there are too many tiers.

    I prefer something like this. Not a comprehensive list just an example of how I'd rather see the tiers formatted. Most people fit into the c-class or lower tiers. To be considered in the b-class and above means those competitors have played a role in shaping the direction and growth of the sport, and is worthy of the so called "HoF" if there was a general MMA HoF.

    ATG's - The very best of there era, absolute standouts among champions
    ex. Fedor Emelianenko, George St. Pierre, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Matt Hughes

    A-Class -Title holders for the top Organizations UFC, Pride
    ex. BJ Penn, Rich Franklin, Wanderlei Silva, Kazushi Sakuraba, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Brock Lesnar, Cain Valasquez, Lyoto Machida, Quinton Jackson, Mauricio Rua, Jens Pulver, Frankie Edgar, Ben Henderson, Demetrius Johnson, Josh Barnett, Randy Couture, etc.

    B-Class -Ranked Non-title holders, or title holders in smaller organizatons, and early UFC Pioneers
    ex. Royce Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Rickson Gracie, Nick Diaz,Travis Fulton, Dan Severn, Mirko Crocop, Frank Shamrock, Norifumi Yamamoto, Hayato Sakurai, Alexander Franca Noguiera, Rumina Sato, Miguel Torres, Mamoru Yamaguchi, Ryoto Matsune, etc.

    C-Class -Your Average MMA Competitors, Never achieved top 10 world ranking, Gatekeepers, Low Ranked Local Pros
    you could probably put your name right here, me too :p

    Amateur - Self Explanatory