At what weight should Ward fight Golovkin? How about if Ward goes down in weight to meet GGG? Isn't that what Ward made Chad Dawson do?
GGG fans do want to see him fight Ward, they just want him to fight the best in his own weight first. Even the supposed p4p #2 hasn't fought the best at the weight above him. Ward fans don't want him to do that, they would rather he stay in a division with nothing left for him and fight blown up, unproven middleweights like GGG or OAP's like Hopkins. Why do Ward fans want him to fight GGG? Jealous of the love/attention/hype and/or racial reasons perhaps?
He is not big enough to smash Ward. GGG fighting Ward is like a natural welterweight fighting GGG. They are simply not the same size. 8lbs is a lot. GGG needs to cleanup Middleweight division.
Also, I dont see GGG as an easy fight at all for Ward. People keep talking about GGG like hes some one dimensional power slugger. His best weapons though are his jab, his balance, his footwork and his stamina. His power just means that everyone has to respect him in the ring, which opens a lot of strategic doors. His power also means that what would be a UD fight for most boxers is a late TKO win for GGG because even when he faces an opponent with toughness and defense and cant get the KO shot its still hard to finish a full 12 rounds. Ward going to out potshot someone with great jab and footwork? Not likely. Getting in a phonebooth with GGG might be winnable for Ward, but would still be extremely dangerous. Talk about a tense encounter. Ward very well could find a way to win the fight cause he is extremely good. But thinking it would be won on simple terms is just one dimensional analysis. I think it would be an extremely interesting fight with very high tension. If it happened at MSG with say Dock as ref I think it could go either way. If it happened in Cali with Wards refs/judges then I favor Ward.
Well I'm not arguing here, I'm debating: A fragile Bute he caught cold? Can u not remember the hype Bute was receiving before the fight? The bookies had him down as the firm favorite, the community thought Ward was "ducking him" (although I personally don't agree), and Froch went and beat him from pillar to post. To denounce Bute here is to undermine Froch's performance which, quite honestly, was immense. Put it this way; if Froch/Ward were to beat GGG, would you say "he was fragile and they caught him cold?" No you wouldn't.... I'll agree he was down on the scorecards against Taylor but that makes his victory no less meaningful. It in no way was a controversial stoppage; for all we know it could have been his game plan to win via 12th round tko. Taylor's always had stamina issues, Froch was fighting in the US for the 1st time, had to pick himself off the canvas and still came back to win a brutal round 12 tko. Who says Kessler is washed up? He might not be 100% of his prime but he'll still no.3 at SMW and would still give lesser opponents a good hiding. It's not like he's Mosley or RJJjr.... Lets not forget the other opponents: Pascal, Dirrell (yes I agree controversial), Abraham, Mack, Johnson, Ward (who he lost to) next Groves... Can you name any current fighter with a better run of opposition? You shouldn't be here to discredit each and every one of Froch's opponents. You don't see me saying "GGG's best win was against Macklin who's got 4 (including 2 domestic level) losses." Why? Because it doesn't tell the entire story. You could do what you've done in discrediting someones resume to any fighter in history but, sometimes, you just have to give credit where it's due. Froch's credit, is 100% due.... You, me, anyone else on these forums; like it or not, Froch IS a beast....
Dude can't fight going backwards. Ward, OTOH, is the complete package. This isn't a competitive fight...
No he's not. He's very good and deserves his credit but he's not a beast. He has some good wins but he got beat by Ward and Kessler and arguably Dirrell.
I'm not so sure he can't fight going backwards. We haven't seen enough to say for sure imo. Even if that is true it doesn't necessarily matter. Many fighters have got great wins or been great fighter without fighting going backwards (Mike Tyson etc). Ward fought Miranda, Bika, Abraham, Froch, weakened Dawson etc. GGG might be at least as competitive as some of those.
That means almost nothing. I keep seeing people talk about fighting backwards like it has any great significance. Instead of fighting backwards GGG always either moves to side, or backs off to reposition then comes forward again. Being weaker fighting backward is only significant if the guy is unwilling or unable to step into a phone booth, which isnt the case here. Golovkin moves back just fine, he just doesnt like to do the "fighting retreat" that some boxers prefer. Its a matter of style more than anything.
Its not about fighting Ward or not fighting Ward. Its about fighting at the weight you should be at. Theres a large group of people out there that wish to see G fight people he shouldnt even be in the same weight class with. Again, all the G critics really seem to have to cling on to is hoping that he goes to a division he doesnt belong in, and fight guys bigger then him, that he shouldnt be fighting in the first place. I dont see whats wrong with preferring G stay at the weight hes meant to be at, and the one he makes comfortably. And someone can save the 'broner', 'mayweather', ect talk. Whats funny is.... You see the same people keep harping on this and harping on this. But how many of them have made the same comments with the same desperation about Ward? The guy they want G to move up and fight has been in his weightclass for almost a decade.... two years before G was even a pro, with his division almost entirely cleaned out, and yet their calls are for G to move up, when he hasnt even fought a top 2 middleweight yet. The agenda is clear.