If Calzaghe had the fought the exact same fighters at the same time Hopkins did......

...yeah, based on what you wrote earlier that makes no sense.

"You saw a fraud when they sent Lacy into Joe's squared circled."

And while we're getting all types of past tense / present tense in this thread, are you saying that when Joe beat Lacy that a time warp was created and the present tense fans could see their futures selves not giving Joe credit?

Or was it just a typo?

If it was just a typo, what you're saying is that Jeff Lacy was in a fact going to be a great fighter before Joe 'ruined' him.

What about Lacy made YOU think he was going to be so great?

 

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Answer this question:

Was Jeff Lacy hype or substance?

That's really what this is boiling down to.

You see, when you say things like:

it implies that you don't think Lacy was any good to begin with, which makes the win for Joe more about defying expectations than actual substance. And if that's the case, then why are you fixating on it?

Somehow the Lacy win seems to get lauded as this legacy builder. Then in the same breath practically every Calzaghe fan starts calling Lacy a 'hypejob'. Newsflash, Lacy couldn't be both 'hypejob' and 'worthy opponent' at the same time, one more or less precludes the other.

In the end, this thread is much less about Calzaghe, Hopkins or Lacy as it is about your weird fetishes.

And for the record, I did think Lacy was going to win in as much as I thought about it at all.

Anyway, enjoy your strange troll thread.

 

Their ages and weights are far too different to compare...

Joe never fought at MW... We don't know how he would have looked there..

would I pick SMW Joe over Trinidad, Taylor and Joppy? damn right...

Would I pick Joe over MW Roy Jones? no

Would I pick Joe over Antonio Tarver at LHW? Not sure... The big things for me here, is we have never seen Joe in against an elite southpaw... He did dismiss Tarver because he caught a shot Roy at the right time...

Joe had a great talent, and did have a very good career.. I have respect for the man, but I don't feel he was ever tested against someone like a prime Jones or Hopkins... He did beat some very good fighters though.

Joe is ATG in my book... But a bit behind Jones and Hopkins.

 

As far as the poll goes, there is not a sane person that see Joe Calzaghe school Jeff Lacy in epic fashion... I almost voted Lacy because it was such a stupid question.

It's like asking who won between Jones and Toney..

 

Jones moved up in weight and beat undefeated Toney who was atop many of the P4P lists....


Joe's victory against Lacy was a good win, but it doesn't hold a candle to what Roy did to James Toney.:good

 

Drugged or not, Joe has no chance over Roy Jones 93-03...

 

Stop comparing Jeff Lacy to James Toney...:yep

They are in totally different leagues...