The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Only Mayweather and Pacquiao.

 

Cotto has to be included in any discussion of PPV buys.He has been involved in several million buy events as I recall.:thumbsup

 

I don't even think Pacquiao gets 1 mil at this point.

 

Floyd, Pac , Canelo , Cotto and maybe Khan?(long shot but possible, can't underestimate those UK fans)

 

Cotto might sell good but will never go beyond $1 million on his name all alone and neither will Alvarez(yet). Khan?

 

Haha! Outside Floyd and Pac those are the only people I see coming close to it.

 

Classic KU99 logic here. He doesn't want to be affiliated with the knuckle-dragging element of Pac fandom who declare Mayweather as 'scared', yet he still wants to put the fight not happening on Mayweather's shoulder.

That blood testing that you declared as not 'necessary to the extent (Mayweather) wanted it implemented', is now pretty much the standard for fighters who want additional testing AND is being implemented in the EXACT SAME FASHION by Pac for his Rios fight. Pac himself is not even using his own proposed testing protocols (3 blood tests at predetermined dates and unlimited urine).

You claim Mayweather wasn't willing to make the fight happen. Fair enough. But for that to be true, you'd have to believe that his open willingness to work with his 'enemy' Bob Arum, his agreement to all of Pacs demands (10 Mil weight penalty, 50/50 split, gloves, etc.) AND the fact he went to meditiation to work out a compromise on blood testing (14 days vs. 24) to save the fight, were all part of some elaborate hoax by Mayweather to fool the public into believing he 'wanted' this fight.

You'd have to believe that Mayweather went through that entire charade just for the Pac fight. Even though this is the same Mayweather who, according to his haters, simply 'retires' or priced himself out against every other fighter he had allegedly 'ducked' prior to this.

But pray tell, if not for what I stated above, on what exactly are you basing this belief that Mayweather didn't want the fight?

 

Where are the details of the test? Cutoff date, etc. Suspiciously absent on search engines.

 

I did answer your question countless times already within this very thread.

And here's your response.

 

Why did Mayweather personally call him to negotiate and offer the ridiculous "100% of PPV earnings goes to me because you have a future in politics while I have boxing and only boxing" then?. Was Mayweather secretly working for Arum too?

 

It's really down to the fight its likely at this stage only Floyd would break 1m regardless of who he fights, even then Guerrero and him didn't get 1m. Anyone else you need two quality fighters with both being names, Cotto- Canelo would sell 1m IMO, as would Canelo- GGG

 

You know what's ironic here, Scar? The gist of your response is no different than that of the average Mayweather 'supporter'.

They, too, will tell you that this fight didn't happen because of Manny Pacquiao's ego. That Manny Pacquiao CHOSE to walk away from the biggest fight in boxing history not because of some high minded, moralistic objection to additional testing (as evidenced by the Rios agreement), but good ole fashion EGO.

Yet somehow, in your world, even while acknowledging that Pacquiao simply walked away because he COULD, you've somehow come to convince yourself that it is still primarily Floyd Mayweather fault for the fight not happening.

The logical contortions one has to do to maintain such contradictory positions is absolutely fascinating to behold. And, well, kinda sad.

 

Both of them are to be blamed for this fight not happening, I never denied that nor covered it up. It takes two teams to sit, negotiate and sign papers to make a fight happen. However, I still insist that Mayweather was the one coming up with strange demands every time they negotiated. His first demand was the blood testing which was declined only to see him play mind games by forcing it upon fighters that were forced to accept it for paydays(Mosley, Ortiz and so on). Then he returns to negotiate again after the insane public and media pressure only to come up with "You take $40 million while I take all the rest including 100% of the PPV earnings. Hey!, it's still your highest payday ever!".

I've been a fan of both for over 10 years now and defended them as objectively and rationally as possible throughout these years discussing boxing whether online or in fun public discussions with friends. In this case, I just can't find anything worth using to defend Mayweather with. He's the one that came up with these demands and it took him a while to legitimize his "blood testing" campaign and even that is flawed with fighters picking different organizations to test them.

We can discuss this forever regarding who's wrong and it won't make a difference. I made my case clear and Pacquiao is the one easily worth defending in this case compared to Mayweather.

 

clearly u have no idea what went on. the ost was in place prior to any negotiations taking place.. it was NOT all the sudden put in last minute, it was always there. at first team paq thought they could work around it but as soon as they found out it was random they declined the fight.

it was 50/50 and floyd accepted ALL paqs stipulations. some of u fkn idiots try to claim paq agreed to everything, WTF floyd had 1 stip while paq had MULTIPLE that foyd immediately agreed to.

then floyd backed off and gave in to 14 days, 2 fkn weeks of NO testing and team paq still wouldnt accept.

team paq turned down the fight multipe times and he was the on who "ran" away

get ur fkn facts straight or STFU with all ur BS lies

 

Oscar in a comeback fight!