Garcia's whole crew is going to get their asses beat.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TJ Max, Nov 21, 2013.


  1. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a fool. Did you watch the fight? Margarito was game as hell.

    To be honest, if Pacquaio has lost a step since then, that fight would have been MUCH, MUCH closer.

    Margarito DID land some shots, but Pacquaio's conditioning allowed him to continuously escape Margarito's attack.

    Despite Pacquaio's punching power, which was enough to put Mosley on his ass, and give Marquez a concussion, Margarito kept coming foward, even after Pacquaio's numerous left straight to Margarito's body.

    Margarito was probably one of the most game fighters of the last 20 years if not the MOST game fighter of the last 20 years.

    And how can you say Margarito was drained when he fought most of his career at 147, yet weighed in at 150 in the Pacquaio fight?

    So I guess, Mosley fought a drained Margarito too?

    You see how stupid that sounds. Was Canelo drained? I don't think so. If a fighter doesn't show any signs of being drained, why are they suddenly assumed to be drained?
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley may well have fought a drained Margarito, but that was on Margarito's own accord for the 147lbs title.

    Manny Pacquiao fought Margarito for a 154lbs title AT 150lbs catchweight.


    See the difference? Or do I have to go further?

    When Mosley destroyed Margarito he was a seasoned world champion in his own weight class, when Manny beat him he was coming off a huge layoff (ban) and was fighting at a contracted catchweight.
     
  3. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares about the title? Everybody knows the title was bull****. Margarito weighed in at 168 lbs, and was a formidable fighter, outweighing Pacquaio by nearly 20 lbs, and showed no lack of stamina or heart.

    Everybody thinks that was an easy fight. That was not an easy fight. Pacquaio really had to work to beat the guy that night.

    Margarito was not shot either.

    Margarito had enough left to look like he was on his way of repeating the result of the first Cotto fight, in the second one, before he was stopped on account of his eye that Pacquaio destroyed.

    I never said Margarito was drained when he fought Mosley. You said that. I don't agree.
     
  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Can you read?

    I said he may well have been drained, as he stated he was.
    Anywho, when Mosley beat him he was coming off the best win of his career and was considered the man at 147lbs.. when Manny beat him he was coming off a huge layoff and a tuneup fight where he looked terrible.
     
  5. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only person that would be drained is you, if they drained that water outta your water muscles.

    You wouldn't be ****.
     
  6. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    margo has never made excuses but he was having problems making 147 against mosley and capetillo admitted that was the reason why he plastered margos hand wraps.

    there is no way, even if margo was 80 percent of the fighter after the mosley thrashing, he would he be the +400 that he was against paq after paqs knockdown and subsequent ktfo cold loss. in fact, the fight probably would never be made.

    i still cant understand the logic that rios, whose nowhere near the threat of a faded margo, is a +400 dog.

    in the last 30 years how man guys that are 35+ that suffer their first ko(not tko) loss are successful, thereafter?

    the list is going to be in single digits and if history has any signifigance paq has maybe three fights left
     
  7. A|C|S

    A|C|S The original |A|C|S| Full Member

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    :rofl *******s get way too emotional over this shxt, dont you have a personal life
     
  8. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the record, I think Margarito was a more dangerous fighter than Rios, but Pacquaio is older and may not be the same fighter as before.
     
  9. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it not true?

    Why don't you make a life time ban bet that you never follow through with like the female you are.

    You talk about bein emotional.

    You ain't even a man.
     
  10. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    very few guys that rely heavily on speed and reflexes are seldom successful below heavyweight once they hit their mid-30's

    ray leonard, jones jr and sweet pea and are a good examples of guys done at 35.


    i would take ruslan over paq right now.
     
  11. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on man. Pacquaio still looks good in the gym. He still has that speed and power.

    We need to at least wait for fight night to see how he performs.

    Mayweather as skilled as he is, relies on speed and reflexes, and at 37 he looked as fresh as ever, and that's with plenty of self proclaimed wear and tear on his body.
     
  12. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mayweather has never been in wars and he has the best defense in boxing so you cant compare him to paq.

    and im sure that roy looked great in the gym before his johnson fight where the road warrior was about the same +350-400 as rios is now.

    my decisions when laying money on a fighter have to go with statistics and history as opposed to gut feeling.

    and statistically and historically guys like paq, coming off a knockdown(very signifigant as he had never been down or hurt in 8+ years) and then a subsequent ktfo cold, dont fare well from there on out.

    think back 30 years and tell me who is the last guy that had success below hw, or lhw for that matter, after being ktfo cold when over 35?

    thats what paq is up against and thats why arum made this fight. there are no tune-ups for paq because top rank cant afford the risk of paq getting kod on non-ppv.

    in all likelihood there is an expiration date on manny and arum wants to make as much money on him before he expires
     
  13. Flexe

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    Rios is in for a beating

    Worse than Margarito if the towel isn't thrown in..
     
  14. A|C|S

    A|C|S The original |A|C|S| Full Member

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    I never lost a lifetime ban bet
     
  15. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not exactly true. Margarito might have had to have weighed in at a certain weight but in the ring on fight night he was back to his usual weight and not fighting at a catchweight disadvantage. In short that fight fight wasn't lost on the scales.