Vitali's resume may be a little weak but some of his feats are actually amazing

the whoppers are all yours. observe -

no one said he was a bum you said he was a bum. Explain why you said that.

he didn't rematch him, that which is expected of EVERY world title holder who loses when they are expected to win. He ran - but the salient fact is that he ran from a man who was a MW a few years previous. No HW champion has done this ni history.

 

He quit and never sought the rematch after he promised to get his title back. Its not like there wasnt ample time either as both were top 10 ranked the next several years and at one point were ranked one and two.

 

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I happen to be a Chris Byrd fan Rapid Fire but I'm sorry he was dominated by Vitali. Lucky to have one two rounds in that fight. He couldn't cope with getting inside just like his fights with Wladimir. HBO had the fight scored same way the judges had it scored a dominant performance until an injury. No need to "avenge" that "loss". Unifying titles does not make you lineal champion. Lineal champion is simply the champion who's victories can be traced back to John L. Sullivan. It has been broken several times due to retirements such as Rocky Marciano. I have Wladimir as current Lineal champion doesn't matter if he has all belts or not. If you have all belts that makes you "undisputed champion"

 

Vladimir easily beat Byrd two times. Byrd said that Vitali was a more difficult opponent that Vlad. Vitali was easily dominating Byrd with one arm. After the fight Vitali had 2.5 hours of surgery.................

 

Ok, so your happy that Vitali will forever carry a black mark on his resume and legacy over his fight with Byrd. Your content with the fact that there will always be people who mock Vitali for quitting on his stool in a fight he winning easy and never trying to set things right. Because you see, no matter how well he might have fought on the night his loss to Byrd does damage his place in the all time ranking, it does hurt his legacy, especially when Byrd would go on to be consistantly rated a top five heavyweight for the next four/five years after his loss to Wlad as well as being the most established World Champion except Lewis between 2002 and 2006 and at one point was rated second only to Vitali as the best in the division. And if there was a point to a rematch between Byrd and Wlad after he'd lost easy in their first fight then the excuse that a Vitali/Byrd rematch would be pointless because Vitali dominated the first fight is unsustainable.

As far as the Lineal title goes, it can't be traced back to Sullivan, there are several different lineages. When a fighter retires with the Lineal Title that lineage ends. The Lineal Title is specifically something that can only be won by beating the holder of the Lineal Title - to be the man you've got to beat the man and all that - or by doing something which gains you recognition as the best in the division so you start your own lineage. You dont have to unify all the title to do that, but it is one thing you can do to achieve it. You can also achieve it by beating all the top contenders in your division regardless of whether they hold titles or not, or by maintaining a position as the top fighter in your division for so long that people have to recognize you as the best. Vitali has done none of those things, Wlad has.

 

this would be in the same way he won against Lewis via a tko6 defeat, I presume. Klittard logic.

 

, no vitali ran in feasr from byrd and hid, so chris didn't need to make it difficult.

 

One correction Vitali 7-2 Byrd not 8-1

 

Vitali claimed he tore is rotator cuff against Bryd, yet he was fighting again 7 months later, no way would be fighting again so soon if it was a torn rotator cuff. I don't think the injury was as bad as Vitali claimed.

 

he quit against a mw/smw, so running from them fits the bill perfectly, thank you.

When it comes to facing a decent opponent, he is the running type, which is a skill he learned to develop after lewis tko6ed him, so that he doesn't get tkoed again. before that he was pretty brave, sure.

 

every hw champ has a sad resume. look back. holmes and ali fought mostly novice clowns

 

Well, seems like you're not fully aware of the kind of pain Vitali felt then. It was incompatible with the idea of keeping fighting. His doctor wouldn't let him. That's boxing and **** happens there.
Nowadays only stubborn haters would point out this defeat as a declass. He proved to the whole boxing audience that he has heart and balls.
By the way he claimed that he had the same type of injury during the fight with Chisora. I don't fully believe it was that paintful, but it explains why he wasn't as convincing as usually.

 

I got it, man)
That was only about his fight to Byrd.. i don't consider it to be a shame and disgrace, that's all :roll:

 

Majr-Vitali had won 7 or 8 rounds against Byrd. Byrd had NO chance to win that fight. Vitali than tore his rotator cuff and had to retire on his stool in a fight he was dominating. No need, to come back and right that fight, this was not Liston quitting against Ali because the fight was tougher than expected. Vitali cleared his name with his performance against Lewis if their was doubts from people regarding the Byrd fight. He has since gone on to be an ATG. As for Lineal title I know exactly how it goes and no it doesn't branch off it other lineal titles when it gets broken. Even though logic dictates it should. Sullivan, corbett, fitzsimmons, jeffries, hart, burns, johnson, willard, dempsey, tunney, schmeling, sharkey, carnera, baer, braddock, louis, charles, walcott, marciano, patterson, liston, clay, frazier, foreman, ali, spinks, ali, holmes, m. spinks, tyson,douglas, holyfield, bowe, holyfield, moorer, foreman, briggs, lewis, W. klitschko.