What would have happened if?

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  1. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Howard Foster had not stepped in?

    1) Groves recovers, nails Froch and wins by TKO/KO himself.
    2) Groves recovers, holds off the storm and wins on points.
    3) Groves recovers but Froch comes on strong down the stretch to take it on points.
    4) Froch finishes Groves with a "proper" TKO/KO.

    Options provided.

    I personally vote option 4. Just based on what we know of Froch's finishing qualities.

    NB: Please don't mention the stoppage itself. We know it was ****. Talk about that in the multiple other threads, my good friends :good
     
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  2. SnoopyboyM

    SnoopyboyM Active Member Full Member

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    I THINK Froch would have stopped him i had Groves 4 ahead but he was coming on and i got the impression he broke Groves heart a little in a years time Groves will beat him especially if he has Booth back
     
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  3. NJR

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    I voted Froch points due to the outrageous scoring of just 76-75 in favour of Groves, I think the judges would have given a controversial decision to Froch if the fight hadn't been stopped.
     
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  4. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll be honest here - I'm a Froch fan. I had Groves by 1 point, 76-75 going into the 9th. Looking back, the 2nd was Groves' round as well, so I should have had it more like 76-74. Either way I seriously disagree with anyone saying that Froch was not in that fight. You just need to look at George's face.

    Another note, My Dad mentioned on the radio they were talking early next year for the rematch. Not sure Carl would be too keen on that one so early.

    Serious decisions for Carl to make. Does he take a tune up to get full confidence back, or does he go straight back in to avoid gathering any further rust? I say he goes for it.
     
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  5. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see nothing, NOTHING, to suggest that Groves would have been legitimately stopped. He would have been robbed on the cards / stopped when more (and by that I mean more than very slightly) hurt.
     
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  6. caligula4

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    Groves was fighting an incredible fight, but his tactics were starting to go and he was going to war - he looked vulnerable when it ended and I think Froch would have ended up KO'ing him.
    But that's the problem... never know, and he'd been controlling the fight so well he may have weathered the storm well and regrouped.
    He wasn't many rounds off a points win and fought really well. Gutting.
     
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  7. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I scored similarly mate, as I say above.

    That being said, that round was on course for a 10-8 perhaps? Then give Froch say two of the last 3, considering Groves recovers and nicks a round somewhere? That would have left it at 114-112 Groves on a scorecard I found pretty wide going into the ninth.
     
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  8. Tomm

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    People got far too hyped up when Froch landed a few shots, the amount of clean flush punches Froch took from Groves was incredible and very surprising. Froch landed a few punches which hurt Groves, Groves had Froch on his arse AND had him in trouble on a few other occasions. Groves wasn't exactly completely gassed out at the time of the stoppage. Groves would have won this on points if all things had been equal going into it, in reality Froch might have been given the split decision but with the head and lateral movement Groves was offering I don't see how people seem to think Froch would have stopped him, a lot remembering the Froch-Bute contest if you ask me and remembering the Froch of that night, not the Froch of tonight!
     
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  9. maaarsh

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    Froch on points - same result, same robbery.
     
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  10. SnoopyboyM

    SnoopyboyM Active Member Full Member

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    In my opinion he has 3 options Groves or Ward i can't see it being Ward as it was too one sided first time the rematch which will be big business and Groves deserves it or De Gale in another big UK EVENT
     
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  11. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Degale is crap. He has to at least avenge the Groves fight before that guy being mentioned, regarding either.
     
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  12. Leif Erikson

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    He has no heart if he carries on and it's not the Groves fight next. None. He is fashioned Carl "The Coward" Froch in the event that the rematch fails to come together for any reason other than retirement and a concession that he just doesn't have it any more. That would be a sad end to his career.
     
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  13. Brixton Bomber

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    The rematch HAS TO HAPPEN, simple. And when it does, Carl is getting sparked out.
     
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  14. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think the Ward rematch was ever on the cards really. Carl admitted in a sky sports interview the other day that he wasn't too keen on it himself.

    DeGale? I think it would be a time-waster. Maybe have DeGale fight the winner of the rematch?
     
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  15. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Early stoppage.

    Jones - Tarver II. :yep
     
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