Bad stoppage, but Groves would have been stopped

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I haven't seen the fight, yet, but I backed Groves to win, so hearing that it was a bad stoppage really pisses me off!
     
  2. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I seem to remember his head and flopping rolling worryingly when Froch connected from the 6th on.
    From about the 6th on the tide was slowly turning.
    It was becoming an inside fight (as all fights do as the boxers tire late on)....and Groves has no inside game...sorry Furey! ;)

    Do I remember in the round or two before the stoppage the ref interrupting a Froch barrage, and giving Groves a break??

    In any case the REAL chancers were the 2 judges.
    The ref was operating in the heat of the moment - they were cold bloodedly depriving Groves of points he deserved...THAT is the REAL story of this fight, the JUDGES not the ref...
    That is what needs looking into IMO.
     
  3. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not making excuses for the ref but if you re-watch it in the 9th groves throws 2 weak punches in 50 secs of punishment by froch - not saying they all landed.

    So i can kind of forgive the stopage its the score cards thats the problem.

    will we have needed the scored cards, we will never know
     
  4. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All we can do is speculate how the fight may have progressed if the fight wasn't stopped. I believe Groves would have made out of the round. He was hurt on a few occasions, and would regain his composure again, and start to box. He kept getting involved in tear ups which cost him the fight.

    Would have been interesting if Groves survived the round though.
     
  5. WinstonBarry

    WinstonBarry Active Member Full Member

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    'Forgive the stoppage'? What the hell is going on here?
     
  6. WinstonBarry

    WinstonBarry Active Member Full Member

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    Can't remember fully, but didn't groves win 6 & 7? With Froch nicking the 5th and possibly the 8th?

    Hardly a momentum change, is it.
     
  7. JACK McWAVEY

    JACK McWAVEY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    casuals buying the hearn and froch camp crap as per
     
  8. boxzone

    boxzone Active Member Full Member

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    The stoppage and the judges decisions stink. How is that possible how can that be stopped in that fashion as a fighter I would be happy that I won but understand and whole heartily admit that it wasn't right that's where respect is earned. Not bullshitting and saying its a fair stoppage. If they rematch Groves will win.
     
  9. jcairns1

    jcairns1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Groves rocked Froch in the 9th round too, he wasn't even really all that hurt, he woulda recovered and regrouped inbetween rounds, I gave round 5 to Froch (the only round up to the 9th I actually gave him) and then in round 6 Groves came out blazing!! For all we know he woulda done the same in Round 10, but he was robbed of the chance to do it and we were robbed of the chance to see it.
     
  10. Championship

    Championship Lineal Full Member

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    Froch was being caught by massive flush shots, but singles, not combos, or a finishing barrage on the ropes.
     
  11. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch won round 8 IMO, did well in round 7 as well but lost it. round 7 is when this fight slowly turned into Froch's kind of fight. Groves was fading but we don't know how he would have done in the remaining rounds because the ref spoiled it. Its all guess work.

    I think Froch would have got a legit stoppage but no one knows for sire and Groves deserved a chance to stay in the fight IMO in that 9th round.
     
  12. Championship

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    Yeah I personally think he stopped an Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Eubank v Watson type comeback from happening.

    Was astonished Froch could come back so well, at this stage of his career, with all the hard fights, the massive punishment of fight-ending blows landed on him, looking flat-footed and tentative, being out-maneuvered most of the way, then charging back.

    Carl "Tony Montana" Froch - walked though all the hailstorm of flush bullets with his hands down, just to deliver his own. In a rematch he might have to undergo more hellacious bombs and could win, but he could really be permenantly damaged taking those shots.
     
  13. WinstonBarry

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    I don't think Froch did come back all that well - emphasis on 'well'? Isn't it more the case that he made a onesided fight moderately more competitive in the later rounds? I thought Groves was still producing the quality work. I really don't see this 'momentum' change that people are banging on about.
     
  14. Championship

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    Groves started standing with him and Froch was just throwing with his hands down taking big shots to land his own, then got Groves on the ropes knocking his head around a couple of times.
     
  15. WinstonBarry

    WinstonBarry Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah sure, I get that, but to some people that amounts to a momentum change? Pretty sure Groves was doing the same in the 6th?