Floyd Mayweather vs Terry Norris at 151 lbs

Mayweather would never, ever, ever get in the ring w a prime Terry Norris … IF anyone had the style, speed and power to flatten Floyd it's Terry ...

 

Agreed Mayweathers people would have avoided Terry like the plague, Norris was too talented for Floyd to defend him like he does others.

 

Pick em fight to me. I see these guys career trajectory as so similar. Both were carefully matched, overprotected, overrated media hyped pricks.

 

I recommend watching Norris on youtube, his KO of John Mugabi was awesome

 

Norris was a beast around that weight. Norris could have made 147 without too much struggle... but he was a very strong and solid JMW/SWW. Norris didn't blow up between fights, he was very comfortable around this weight.

Norris was fast, accurate, powerful, strong, and had good stamina. Mayweather doesn't have enough power to bother Norris like Julian Jackson, Simon Brown, and others did.

Bad match-up for Mayweather IMO. Norris by decision... and YES, I see Mayweather getting dropped at least once.

 

Your commenting on a fighter you have never seen? Norris small? Don't be fooled by some of his weigh-in weights. He had no fat on him, his frame was much like many MWs... he was about the same size as Sugar Ray Leonard. Yeah I know, Leonard was not a true MW but far from small or short... especially compared to Mayweather. When WW Champ Meldrick Taylor fought Norris at a catch-weight, Norris looked like a monster compared to Taylor (who came in very solid at 150 Lbs. and 5'7"). Mayweather is 5'8" and not a large framed man.

Size isn't everything, but Norris would have more than just a size advantage. He was very fast, explosive. aggressive, accurate, and his chin would be more than adequate. He would be able to keep up a steady pace for 12 rounds. I don't see Mayweather winning.

 

Mayweather is very, very good, we have to give him credit. I think Mayweather is stronger and more resilient than is given credit for, and he potshots you and doesn't give you much opportunity to counter. He's very smart.
Defensively he gives you so many different looks that opponents are often left wondering what the heck to do against this guy.

I think this fight depends on whether Norris can match Mayweather's speed of hand and foot. I think he can actually, one of the few who can.
It's possible that Norris can get to Mayweather more than anyone else has had to so far. If Mosley could have sustained his attacks against Floyd, he may have won. Mayweather was caught and nearly dropped because Shane had really fast hands, but Shane was too old to sustain his attacks, and Mayweather got on top.

I think a young, prime Norris is a very dangerous matchup for Mayweather, who will be outsized against an opponent as quick or very nearly as quick as he is. Still, I would not rule Floyd out altogether...he is adaptable and smart, and cool as ice in there. However, if he can't gain Norris' respect, he will lose a decision I think.

 

Norris by UD. He's all wrong for Floyd at junior middle.

 

Then you should have stopped typing right there.

And beyond that, this is quite possibly the most annoying Floyd dick riding post I've ever seen in my life.

Nobody below middle ever beats Floyd.:rofl:rofl

 

Norris had a nice 8 year stretch. He wasn't unbeatable, but he was very good, great actually. From September of '89 - September of '97 he went 26-3 (19) overall and 19-3 (14) in World Title Fights. Let's look at those 3 losses... 2 of them were DQ losses to Luis Santana who Norris was way better than. In there 3 fights Santana won 1 round at best. He won the first two fights by putting on some of the best acting I've seen since DeNiro in Raging Bull. When they fought a 3rd time Norris knocked him out in the 2nd round. The other loss was to Simon Brown, KO4. Brown was a big puncher and he caught Norris clean... Mayweather could never do this to Norris. In the rematch Norris easily outboxed Brown. He also beat Jorge Vaca W10, John Mugabi KO1, Ray Leonard W12, Donald Curry KO8, Jorge Castro W10 (a near shut out), Carl Daniels KO9, Meldrick Taylor KO4, Maurice Blocker KO2 (4 months before Trinidad did the same, it took Simon Brown 10 rounds to stop Blocker), Paul Vaden W12 (shut out), Vincent Pettway KO8, and others.

Sure, Leonard and Curry were past prime but they were a little better than some will admit-

Leonard was a 12-5 favorite vs. Norris in 1991. He had stopped LHW Donny LaLonde in the 9th round, Drew with SMW Tommy Hearns (regardless of who you think won, Leonard looked like a very capable fighter vs. Hearns), and shut out Roberto Duran (who had beat Iran Barkley earlier that year in a great fight).

Curry was a little more past prime than Leonard was vs. Norris. Curry had moved up to MW and was stopped by Michael Nunn in the 10th round 7 1/2 months earlier. Prior to Nunn he won 2 in a row by KO and looked anything but washed up. It makes me wonder how Norris would have done vs. Nunn. Nunn did struggle with the much smaller Marlon Starling.

 

Not good. Nunn would have knocked Norris out. If we're talking about the 88 Nunn that beat Tate, then Norris doesn't go more than 3 rounds.

Nunn in his brief prime was a VERY special fighter. He'd have been a threat to Jones in his prime, nevermind Norris.

Nunn vs Norris is a mismatch.

 

Have you ever seen Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, or Thomas Hearns fight? How about a prime Oscar DeLaHoya or a prime Shane Mosley? A lot of people think that Oscar did enough to beat a prime Mayweather despite being past prime... a prime Oscar would have gotten the job done IMO. A prime Mosley gets the job done as well. Robinson, Leonard, and Hearns? Yeah, I pick them all over Mayweather. Benitez, McCallum, Emile Griffith, and plenty of others have at least a decent chance vs. Mayweather. Benitez 140-154 actually. Ever seen Pernell Whitaker? He'd have a very good chance vs. Mayweather at 135-154.

 

Norris' wins over Leonard and Curry are worth about as much as Pacquiao's wins over De La Hoya and Mosley.

 

Nunn was very good but he did struggle vs. a past prime and smaller fighter named Marlon Starling during his "prime". He even struggled vs. Iran Barkley. He won both fight by MD. He stopped Tate KO9 (a decent title holder at best), Roldan KO8 (Roldan's last pro fight), and Kalambay KO1 (somewhat of a fluke (because it was a quick KO), but good win, would have liked to have seen a rematch).

I actually liked Nunn as a LHW. He really should have fought Jones during this time. I thought he did enough to beat Rocchigiani for the vacant WBC LHW Title in '98 but Rocchigiani got the decision in Germany. He fought just 6 more times and won all 6, 4 by KO. 15-1 (10) in fights above 168 Lbs. with the only loss coming vs. Rocky in Germany. He beat some decent fighters above SMW and some just below decent but he looked good doing it. He beat Rudy Nix KO2, Booker T. Word KO7, Lonnie Horn KO1, Glenn Thomas W10, and William Guthrie KO7 among others.