George Groves... Who Necks

I agree with this.

Why are people assuming that Groves would be able to land those type of shots on Andre Ward? Ward isn't going to lumber forward and get mauled by straight rights round after round.

Groves has proved he has the potential to be a strong world champion but it's very premature to talk about him "beating anybody except Ward at 168". He needs more experience

 

I don't see how froch can fight better? he has no answers for what George threw.George was just silly and got dragged into the brawl in which he dint need to at all.

in my opinion George will be better and pace himself in the last rounds. it his to lose again.

 

Andre Ward should be necks.

 

Groves should take the rematch, Carl is at the right age to be taken down now and hes probably going to take him next time. Make sure hes fitter next time though. Then attempt to unify, partial unification would probs not be beyond him, tough ask mind you for a young man. He'd be looking at another loss or two at some point on that route, since that road leads to Ward.

Or he could take say the Joe Calzaghe path, win an unwanted/unknown IBO/WBU title and defend it for ten years against nobodies. He could easily manage that.

In my mind at least I think George is of the former mindset, not the latter.

 

Indeed^. The writing was on the wall for Groves I think. He impressed me a great deal but he knew how to get through to Froch and Carl was overconfident and complacent. Let's face it, if Groves coulda just pulled the trigger anytime, as he did in round 1, he would have won in the early rounds. Froch can be outboxed but beating him over 12 rounds is a different story.

Groves has actually probably ended up with a lot more credit from the absurd stoppage than he would have done if the fight had continued. I can't claim to know for sure what the result would have been but IMO Groves likely wouldn't have made it to the end of the round, much less the end of the fight. I, for one, want to see him actually win at the top level before adjudging him the next great UK SMW.

That said, Groves did impress and his stock is sky high right now...clearly the Froch rematch is the popular option, but TBH probably not a good idea for Groves.

A DeGale rematch would make some sense, or if he's willing to go accross the pond maybe Periban, Gonzales or (doubtful it'd get made) Chavez jr. The Bika / Dirrell winner would make a lot of sense and if he's willing to take his chances in the Deutschland Stieglitz has the WBO belt.

I suppose he could volunteer to fight Ward, perhaps thinking to show he could beat Froch by proxy, but he'd lose. I don't think he wants back-to-back losses right now.

 

Carl was over-confident in the 1st and perhaps believed his own hype that Groves couldn't hurt him. If Groves was capable of KDing Froch again, one has to wonder why he didn't.

I'm not writing Groves off by any stretch, and was very impressed, but the way I read it is that Groves had spotted the vulnerability to the right counter and exploited it - it nearly won him the fight, and certainly put Froch on the back foot and made him uncharacteristically cautious early.

Once Groves' magic bullet was gone, however, one can look back with hindsight and see Froch gradually regaining confidence and beginning to take over the fight as it progressed.

In a rematch, Froch will know what's coming. Groves might be able to catch him again, but would have to prepare for a long and gruelling fight, which Froch has shown to be his forte.

 

Not v Froch,Groves is different.

 

the biggest issue for Groves is now this - Froch loves to prove people wrong - so in the rematch he will inevitably be superstoked and ultrapepared. It will not be the same fight despite Georgie proving he is the better boxer. truth is GG might not get the same chance again.

 

You cant really believe this.

 

atsch

 

Froch and him has unfinished business.

 

GOD please just don't let froch v ward again he doesn't deserve it.

btw anyone heard what ward thought of groves?

groves was quite respectful of ward even to say he wouldn't beat him (at the moment)