The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Well at least you're not even pretending to be impartial. If you honestly feel that way then they probably shouldn't fight at all. From a fans point of view what would be the point? and financially I think they're both a little richer than most of us, and probably could scrape by with the money they've made to date.

What I find absolutely stupid about this thread is many are more concerns about who gets what then where they actually ever end up fighting. Why would anyone on this thread care who makes what? Are you getting a cut?

All I care about is that the split is fair enough to make a fight happen, I couldn't care less if that meant 50-50 or 75-25.

 

Actually msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-says-he-is-borrowing-to-give-typhoon-aid-112613

Manny only has $25000 in his bank account and has to borrow tons of money to get by. Not only this but all of his accounts are frozen.

So he might not be richer than us after all.

Anyways, there is no chance Manny beats Floyd. He should take the 30% and shut up.

 

Great reply!!

 

Are you kidding? They both need this fight for their legacies. Both will be asked that question if the fight doesn't happen, for the rest of their lives.

70-30 is fair, as Floyd is the much bigger draw and the one who makes much more.

Just look at their earnings/PPV #'s. They don't even come close anymore since 2009.

2.4, 2.2, 1.5, 1.4, 1.3

Pac: 1.4, 1.3 then it falls from there.

 

Now you're getting stupid. You really think he's broke? that he couldn't get a LOC against his house for example. What's taking place is his money is tied up until the government gets a clearance certificate from the US saying he's paid his taxes, which he needs to claim a foreign tax credit. That's not the same and being broke. In fact I just googled and his net worth is about 100M. I wish I was that broke.

 

double post

 

I was being sarcastic on the "Not richer than us part"

He obviously is, but there is no way he has a net worth of 100 million. Not anymore, not even close.

There have been too many stories about him being financially unstable in the past few months and most of them are probably true.

He is now borrowing money on the daily to get by.

Like I said. The 40 million Floyd offered him was his saving grace. Maybe if he gets lucky, Floyd might offer him the 40m again.

He really needs to take this.

 

70-30 sounds right. That was the split for the 1st Tyson/Holyfield fight (30 mil Tyson/12 mil Holy) and this fight definitely mirrors Tyson/Holyfield 1 in that it should have happened years before it actually did, when both guys were at their peak. Manny is coming off of 2 losses in his last 4 fights (just like Holy was against Tyson) and Mayweather (as did Tyson) holds all the cards really as he is the bigger draw and can draw big against pretty much any opponent.

If Manny wins, well then the split could be 50/50 for the rematch.

 

Great reply!

 

I think Pac could use the fight for his legacy, but Mayweather needs the fight for his legacy.

And, let's be honest with the numbers here. They are built on two things, neither of which have to do with people wanting to see Mayweather fight for the sake of fighting.

1. He's very shrewd in making great undercards, which I appreciate as a a boxing fan, and fights where he can draw in fans of other boxers, then claim them as his own (Canelo, de la Hoya).

2. People want to see if he'll lose. Once he does, he's no longer a great draw, other than those who enjoy seeing a masterful defensive technition, which most don't.

He's not a "much bigger" draw than Pacquiao and the point still remains that this is, generally, considered the best potential draw in history. This, potential, 4 million buy fight doesn't loom because Mayweather is fighting some chump or he's the only attraction. It's the biggest fight in boxing history because of both guys and a 70-30 split doesn't reflect the reality of the situation.

 

According to trainer Freddie Roach, Manny Pacquiao would "overwhelm" unbeaten Floyd Mayweather with his lightning speed if the fight happens in 2014.

"Mayweather in his last two fights has been slow, he doesn't move as much as he used to. I think Manny's speed will overwhelm him. Mayweather is not good against southpaws. And he has trouble with speed." Roach said.

Pacquiao said that he was ready to go toe-to-toe with Mayweather, but that the decision rested with the American.
"My job is to fight and I will fight anybody who will fight me, I am willing to fight Floyd. So it is up to him."

 

Manny has lost considerable speed since 2008-2009.

Sorry but Floyd outclasses him.

 

Firstly, you're claiming that Mayweather tends to draw well because of the undercards.

What undercard was there for the Oscar/Mayweather fight?

None, it was a trash undercard

Please, even in the Canelo fight, the undercards didn't boost it that much. NO one knows Swift/Matthyse! There is no bloody way that fight could have influenced it that much. It was the draw power of Canelo and Mayweather! But more so Mayweather

2. Boxing fans love to see when a fighter is vulnerable. There is always the possibility that even if he loses a fight, there could still be huge demand to see how he would react in a rematch.

How can you prove that he only has this many buys because people want to see him lose? That's complete bullocks. I'm sure a portion of it is but not the entirety, not even close.

3. Yes he is. From the PPV numbers, it's very evident that he sells better than Pacquiao. Besides Marquez 3, all of their shared opponents have done better #'s with Mayweather. That is a fact. It isn't even questionable.

Oscar/Mayweather 2.4 million homes (A record)
Oscar/Pac 1.15 million homes

Cotto/Pac- 1.2 million homes
Cotto/Mayweather 1.5 million homes

Manny/Marquez 3- 1.4 million homes
Manny/Marquez 4- 1.1 milion homes
Mayweather/Marquez - 1.1 million homes

Mosley/Mayweather 1.4 million homes
Mosley/Pac 1.3 million homes

Hatton/Mayweather 950 k homes
Hatton/Pac- 850 k homes

Now let's talk about earnings

Last fight Mayweather 41.5 million guaranteed (Without PPV money)
Last fight Manny 18 million guaranteed (Without PPV money)

I'm very confident in saying that Mayweather/Canelo outsold the living **** out of Pac/Rios. 2.2 > Maybe 800 k?

So that's way more money in Mayweather's pockets.

People say he made up to 100 million dollars in that fight.

While Manny probably made 30 million.

Why would the split be anywhere near 50-50? This is a business!

If it doesn't make business sense, it doesn't make any damn sense at all.

It's at least a 65-35 split, if not 70-30.

 

Keep dreaming Roach Coach lol

And tell Manny to focus on his finances

 

Manny's weakness = The straight right hand

And Mayweather's right hand would keep him honest the entire night. Manny's output would be reduced to 30% of his usual output.

Manny gets his face ripped apart in that fight and goes off into the sunset.