Who is your favourite current Russian world champion

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BadderDanDem, Nov 26, 2013.


  1. BadderDanDem

    BadderDanDem Guest

    theres 5 currently ( Kovalev, Gradovich, Prodonovikov, Lebedev, Allakhierdev). which is more than the UK - 4 ( Froch, Barker, Burns, Quigg). just saying. and Puerto Rico- 0 and every other country apart from USA (10) and Mexico (7). But it's remarkable how many world champions they got when such few boxers from their great amateur programme actually turn pro, I bet they've only got about 100 pro boxers whereas the USA and Mexico have thousands upon thousands,USA have over 400 at heavyweight alone.

    I could have included Golovkin and Steiglitz as they are both of russian descent but people would probably cry to much

    And Pirog and Baysonguerov too as they were world champions who never lost their belts in the ring, they were a bit harshly stripped cause of inactivity cause of injury.

    who is your fave russian world champ currently
     
  2. Slick n Jewish

    Slick n Jewish Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alexander Ustinov WBA Pan African Heavyweight Champion :deal

    UK should have 5 champion as Jamie Mcdonnell never lost his title too.
     
  3. Lopetego

    Lopetego Guest

    The future belongs to the sons of the USSR

    in a couple years the whole boxing landscape will be dominated by soviets


    GGG will be terrorizing the SWW, MW and SMW divisions

    Kovalev and Lebedev ruling LHW and CW

    Wladimir still ruling HW with an iron fist

    Provodnikov will rule LWW and WW

    Lomachenko, the 2nd coming of Roy jones jr with more skills, will be the king of the lower divisions


    I welcome these warriors and ice cold killers from the cold steppes of the Motherland with open arms, as they'll put an end to the boring ass shoulder rollers era, and make boxing exciting once again for us all.

    Охуительно!!
     
  4. BadderDanDem

    BadderDanDem Guest

    Huck, Lebedev, Usyk, Mekhonstev, Khytrov, Gradovich, Allakhierdiev, Beterbiev, Korobov, Pulev, Rabchenko, Shelestyuk, and many more will be having a big say as well
     
  5. Rojo

    Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Faces of Boxing Capitilist Pigs will be smashed by the gloved fists of Heroic Boxers from Glorius Motherland.
     
  6. Lopetego

    Lopetego Guest

    Affirmative.

    I think most of those comrades will bathe in glory and make the Motherland proud at some point

    The time for soviet supremacy has come :bbb


    :happy:happy:happy
     
  7. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    I do have fondness for the Ex-sov fighters (mainly through being raised by an iron-clad stalinist father - hence the username) - but bear in mind it is mainly only the top few of the ex-sov ams that turn pro. The success of those that do is due not only to the great amateur program and hundreds of amateur fights but also simply due to a darwinian selection process where it's mainly the guys that woulda been standouts anywhere that turn pro.

    Amongst the Russians (ie not including my fave Kazakh) it has to be Kovalev, though Provo and El Ruso are very close behind. Lebedev is a tough SOB but I was never quite as sold on him technically. Allakhverdiev is technically very sound but has lapses and is perhaps not quite as relentlessly offensive as Sergei, Ruslan and Yvgeny.

    FWIW a large part of the attraction of these fighters is simply the offensive style which I'm assuming is in a part a carryover from the amateur scoring system (now supersceded) where clean punches landed were the means of scoring. This put offensive accuracy and volume at a premium, and favoured aggression (although the Cubans obviously had massive success with a more balanced style) whilst still requiring very sound technique.

    It's 'hit more than you get hit' rather than 'hit and don't get hit'.

    Anyways...it makes for some very exciting fighters and with names like Loma, Usyk (yes, I know they're Ukrainian) Beterbiev and Mekhontsev entering the pro scene there's bound to be some good looking fights coming up.
     
  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Soviets are one group to include GGG & Wlad

    Russia alone has a real life Siberian in Provo and the Dagestani/Chechen types, then the main group the Slavic types. Almost as diverse as the US Boxing scene at one point
     
  9. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Sergey Kovalev is my favorite Russian fighter.

    I like all five though. I'm becoming more of a fan of Gradovich every time I see him fight.
     
  10. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Can't you make this an ex-Soviet poll? GGG needs to be there, man.

    :lol:

    Gradovich looked much improved since just the first Dib fight. I was really impressed.
     
  11. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Provodnikov is a beast. Most exciting fighter in boxing at the moment followed by Golovkin. Ruskies now dominating the lower weight divisions as well.
     
  12. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    In terms of the overall impression, it's Kovalev. He is a strong motherf@cker with good technical background.

    In terms of progress that you see from fight to fight in pros it's Gradovich. Russian Mexican looks sharper every time he steps into the ring, his technique improves quite well - Dib couldn't land any significant shots really.

    In terms of better opponents, it's Provo. He will have a beautiful but short career. He's very exciting and very strong, and this compensates for the lack in fundamentals for now.
     
  13. BadderDanDem

    BadderDanDem Guest

    no you are wrong, some people on here have that misconception but it is very wrong, that may be the case for other nations but if you look at the best soviet amateur in recent years most of them did not turn pro
    Aleksei Tishchenko - Olympic gold x 2, world championship gold, european gold
    Oleg Saitov -Olympic gold x 2, world championship gold , european gold x 2
    Albert Selimov- world championship gold, european gold
    Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov -olympic gold, european gold,
    and thats not even putting the silvers and bronzes they won
    etc etc I could list so many more boxers

    and currently you got guys like Medhizdov, Berinchyk, etc who are in no rush to turn over.

    it's the same with Italy and Ireland , most of their top amateurs do not turn pro either
     
  14. BadderDanDem

    BadderDanDem Guest

    you class middleweight as a 'lower weight', from middleweight down theres been plenty of world champions from eastern europe since the collapse of the soviet union in the late 90s, it's not a new thing............ ....

    Evgeny Gradovich, Khabib Allakhierdiev
    Dmitry Pirog, Roman Karmazin, Zaurbek Baysonguerov, Vyacheslav Senchenko, Jan Zaveck, Yuriy Nuzhnenko, Volodymyr Sydorenko, Andriy Kotelnik, Sergei Dzinziruk, Kostya Tzsyu, Dmitry Kirillov, Vic Darchinyan, Yuri Arbachakov, Leonard Dorin, Michael Loewe, Istvan Kovacs, Artur Grigorian,

    it's just it's more likely for a guy in the heavier weights to get a pro boxing deal, the top soviet fighters from the lower divisions tend to stay amateur winning medal after medal, Gradovich wasn't number 1 in Russia thats why he had to turn pro, if all the top amateurs from soviet turned pro they'd dominate every division
     
  15. Changfoo

    Changfoo Guest

    The Russian Mexican from Oxnard!!!