Groves v Degale II - What Happens This Time?

I think Groves would stop Degale in a rematch and I was saying this long before the Froch fight (check my thread history)

 

I think Groves would be more confidence in his own power and defence than he did last time, but I think he'd still fight more cautiously than he did on Saturday. Styles make fights, and just because Groves trusted his speed against a slow, old Froch doesn't mean he would do the same against Degale.

I think Groves won the first fight, but of the two only Groves was ever wobbled in that fight.

 

Groves' power is something else. Have you ever seen Froch in as much trouble as he was? He was much younger when he fought DeGale and just seems to have developed far more impressively.

DeGale has completely stagnated and it's hard to see that he'd beat George if they fought tomorrow.

 

I agree. I'm just saying I don't think Groves would completely abandon his backfoot strategy that worked so well first time.

I'm not saying Degale is anywhere near Froch's class, but I think he'd be more difficult to hit and much quicker with his counters.

 

I dont think Groves wobbled, it looked like he did at one point but Booth pointed out that Degale had stood on his foot and nutted him (can be seen on replay if its the time im thinking of)

 

You might be right. I've not really watched it back tbh. I just remember it being a very cautious fight with very few big shots landing, and Groves seeming to briefly unsteady on his feet at one point.

It's likely that Groves was extra-cautious after the Anderson fight, and also as the huge underdog. Will definitely be interesting to see how a more confident, more powerful Groves would approach any rematch.

 

That knockdown was massive

 

Groves looked unsteady and kind of stumbled back. It looked like a punch in real time, I didnt notice the headbutt until Booth pointed it out post fight.

 

Don't see how this fight can be made. The 1st time it was a big rivalry of the Olympic Gold medalist v the guy who missed out and somebody's 0 had to go. Now they have both lost and even though the loss has raised Groves profile, Degales has gone down dramatically. I doubt both fighters would take this without a World tile or a big purse. If the fight did happen. I'd favor a Groves stoppage in the middle rounds. Plus the 1st fight was PPV and channel 5 don't have the purse for this and it's certainly not PPV on sky.

 

I don't think anybody is suggesting the fight will happen next, but it's definitely going to happen down the line, barring a catastrophe.

Degale needs to make a step up and he seems intent on taking the easiest route to a SMW title. If he manages to do that, and Groves wins a rematch with Froch, then Groves v Degale 2 would be massive. And it would be box office too, no problem.

 

Just goes to show how good Glen Johnson's chin is. Took a pounding from Groves in the 1st round.

 

Yup. I read it wrong!

 

GG will not walk through Degale imo, they know each other to well. I have seen the 1st fight 5 times and scored it for Degale every time, Groves has improved since then and Degale has stagnated a bit but I do feel there is bags of talent in Degale which is all well and good when you have a world class trainer but Degale does not. If they fought in a few months I say Groves would take a 116-112 type of decision, I just want Degale to wise up and get a better trainer.

 

Groves does not box Degale in the same way he boxed Froch. Degale is a far more cautious boxer than Froch and so the lack of defence that Groves exploited in Froch will not be the tactic if he were to fight Degale.

I think the bookies would put Groves as favourite, but its a 50-50 IMO (but more tactical than entertaining)