why marquez was able to KO pac but not bradley?

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  1. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Basic physics, speed & velocity beat manny, who ran directly into the punch man! what do they teach you guys thes days? manny is good against fundamentally flawed guys.
    This has been shown against anbody, that moves there feet or have the ability to counterpunch.
     
  2. The Mongoose

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    After I don't know what...40+ rounds, Marquez finally threaded the needle and timed Pac with a perfect punch. Pac was very sloppy in that fight too, eager to finally finish Marquez, looked to be like he was off balance reaching in, literally throwing his chin into a short pin point punch.

    Also, Marquez simply rises to the occassion against Pac. Not unlike Frazier in the 70s, who was having bad and subpar performances but when in the ring with Ali, would suddenly turn into a demon who was willing to die in the ring. Marquez willingly took severe punishment against Pac for the chances to counter him.
     
  3. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a combination of 40+ rounds of experience against Pacquiao, knowing that Pacquiao has a habit of going in during the last 10 seconds, and Marquez increasing his strength with PEDs.
     
  4. Fightfan1912

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    Styles make fights. Pacquiao afforded Marquez the opportunity to knock him out. Bradley didn't. It's really that simple.
     
  5. robert80

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    Juan had a plan, and executed it. He even showed it on youtube, and joke freddie did not pay heed!
     
  6. secretface

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    Bradley is not as aggressive as Pac, thats why he didn't get knocked out, that and his head is made of titanium. Look at Robocop's head, now look at Bradley's head...Yep, thats it right there.
     
  7. Rojo

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    No. Pacman ran in wide open and got hammered by a guy swinging with everything he had. It was a mistake on Pacman's part and a gamble on JMM's part. And...you saw the end result. This is boxing.

    I mean, can we say Paul Williams was not as strong as Martinez's other opponents after he got KO'd by that big Martinez punch? And...look closely at that Martinez/Williams exchange, for Martinez could have just as easily had his lights turned out if Williams had been a wee-bit more accurate and faster on the punch. This is boxing.
     
  8. des3995

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    The reason that JMM was able to KO Pacquiao and not Bradley was that he was never able to detonate that kind of a bomb with a direct hit. Pacquiao is way more agrressive, and thus can be countered easier.

    This is boxing, it isn't a mathematical formula. There are variables.
     
  9. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No after fighting some one that many times you are able to time them, and know "when" to hit.


    Nothing to do with strength, shot placement and timing is key.



    Give Cotto 4 fights against Floyd, he might get lucky just once.
     
  10. DABOZ

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    You could put this on the Ripley's believe it or not category.

    After 38 something rounds and much,much older Marquez.:shock:
     
  11. markq

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    Marquez has a higher KO % than Pacquiao and Bradley has a low KO %.
     
  12. Regenerator

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    LOL i bet OP is a *******, Styles make fights end of discussion.
     
  13. BoneKrusha

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    Becuz Bradley didn't fight like a wreckless moron. Only Plankman fights like that
     
  14. DABOZ

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    And why Floyd ducking the Plankman and asking for a watered down testing ? :rofl
     
  15. PATSYS

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    Going into the 4th fight, Pac was under pressure to look really good and to dominate Marquez amid the controversies of their previous 3 fights.

    Pac had always been weary of Marquez' power since early in their 1st fight. IN the 4th fight, Pac took more risk by simply going in for the mill when he thought Mrquez was ripe for the picking. He got clocked. **** happens.

    Bradley on the other hand was in a different situtation. Expectations for him against Marquez was low, following the Pac and Provodnikov fights. If you tell Bradley that his purse will be depending on KOing Marquez, I think we would see him rush head first and after 42 rounds, Marquez might just be able to land one lucky punch in the button.