The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha, calling me a noob when you didn't even know it was a strategic punch JMM threw... funny.
     
  2. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM took a beating in that fight before being getting the KO. What makes you so sure Mayweather will be able to land that punch? Or even hang in there as long as JMM given the same circumstances?

    Mayweather got touched up by Cotto who is slower of both hand and feet than Pac. He is also a converted southpaw and see the problems he caused Mayweather. Again, I think Mayweather would win because he'd eventually shut down Pac's offense (and by dirty/ugly tactics) but he isn't pitching a shutout like he did against Guerrero/Canelo.
     
  3. Tekniqs

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    60/40 for Floyd is fine.

    maybe 50/40 and remaining 10% to the winner
     
  4. modernfonzie

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    Interesting. but this is what you're not taking into consideration. Floyd's best weight for KO's and TKO's is what ? 130 and 135 right? Now those guys he was facing at 130 and 135. Were all coming into the ring as Welters. Meaning they were fighting at 130 and 135 but coming in between 145-150. Corrales was 147. N'dou was 149, Gatti was 155 or so. He can take those guys.

    The problem at Welterweight in our era is that all of these "Welterweights" are coming in at 160. 165. Look at Alvarado. Dude fights at 140, and comes in the ring 160+.

    And here comes Pacquiao. Weighing 150, as a Welterweight, or a lightweight depending on how you see weight.

    He can handle that, and he can hurt Pac. Pac could probably hurt him too.

    They are two of the only fighters fighting in weight classes that suit them. Floyd at 135-150 throwing punches at a 145-150 Pacquiao, Corrales, N'dou Hatton, Marquez, is totally different than throwing punches at a 155-165 DLH, Canelo, Cotto, Ortiz, Guerrero.

    feel be bruh?

    Same with Pac. Pac was coming in at 147 fighting at 135. He was annihilating dudes. And when he started to face bigger guys. He stopped knocking them out.
     
  5. dannyc1990

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    Even roach said a blind man should of seen the first ko, it was just a simple feint.
     
  6. sauhund II

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    Sure buddy.............that punch was never ever intended to the body, it came from wayyyyyyyyyyyy back, if one would throw a bodyshot like that you would get countered silly and hurt, that is as stupid as throwing a uppercut from the outside a la Holyfield /Douglas.

    Noob. Nacho talks a lot of ****.
     
  7. sauhund II

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    It is completely pointless to even respond to those threads with the entrenched Pac brigade....

    Bottom line, until Pac learns to avoid a straight right, developes a real jab and learns to cut off the ring applying educated pressure to FMJ he will get a career whooping. Fact.
     
  8. dannyc1990

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    But manny isn't a converted southpaw? so the points invalid. He has his strongest arm as his jab. you always see the mayweathers saying if you can't hit floyd with a jab you aint landing nothing.. mannys jab is nothing special and he has fairly short arms too.

    The thing that wins this fight is the fact manny doesn't change.. watch all his fights from start to finish he'l throw the same punches... the same movement... which is why marquez could figure him out... a smart boxer. Floyd would figure him out in 3 rounds just like he does every fighter.
    I don't think tim beat manny but watch the last 4-5 rounds i think, he figures out all you have to do is stand back and box even stating in an interview after stating that he thinks it'd be an easy fight for floyd.
     
  9. modernfonzie

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    Interesting. but this is what you're not taking into consideration. Floyd's best weight for KO's and TKO's is what ? 130 and 135 right? Now those guys he was facing at 130 and 135. Were all coming into the ring as Welters. Meaning they were fighting at 130 and 135 but coming in between 145-150. Corrales was 147. N'dou was 149, Gatti was 155 or so. He can take those guys.

    The problem at Welterweight in our era is that all of these "Welterweights" are coming in at 160. 165. Look at Alvarado. Dude fights at 140, and comes in the ring 160+.

    And here comes Pacquiao. Weighing 150, as a Welterweight, or a lightweight depending on how you see weight.

    He can handle that, and he can hurt Pac. Pac could probably hurt him too.

    They are two of the only fighters fighting in weight classes that suit them. Floyd at 135-150 throwing punches at a 145-150 Pacquiao, Corrales, N'dou Hatton, Marquez, is totally different than throwing punches at a 155-165 DLH, Canelo, Cotto, Ortiz, Guerrero.

    feel be bruh?

    Same with Pac. Pac was coming in at 147 fighting at 135. He was annihilating dudes. And when he started to face bigger guys. He stopped knocking them out.
     
  10. sauhund II

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    LMAO, problems with Cotto, if you are generous the man won T H R E E rounds at BEST and you call that struggling ?

    Your hero never ever got the handle and went life and death F O U R times on a Mex brawler with some brains and a chin and eventually took a nap for the ages.

    Talking to guys like you is trying to talk sense into a Rock.
     
  11. progamer

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    like i said, floyd needs usada for his trt.

    he will never do vada.

    he will make another laughable offer to pac to make it appear he is interested.

    this is clear by now. he doesnt want any of that left straight of pac. he doesnt know how to defend it, not with his shaky chin.
     
  12. PaRappaSan

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    It's strange because I've also always thought Floyd has a great chance to whoop Pac, but over time his behavior has made me seriously think Floyd sees something in Pac that makes him very reluctant to cash in on him. My theory is that Floyd games the match in his head and it plays out risky enough that he's just kept passing time and time again on a very lucrative matchup. That left hand is certainly a deadly question mark.
     
  13. Sweet-D-Willy

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    and who's "everybody", ******? certainly not anyone who KSAB. u *******s were non-existant for the majority of 2013. and now he beats a face-first brawler and you're trying to say Floyd's scared of Pac? gtfoh.

    The fact that Floyd took on Canelo and schooled him left u Tards speechless and should make it clear that he fears no fighter from 147-154. bet Pac wouldn't take that fight.. nobody in their right mind would think he fears Pac. and quite frankly, Pac don't even deserve a shot at this point until he actually something significant again. he can't even win against a 40 year old marquez. now that's some cherry picking gone terribly wrong :lol:.
     
  14. progamer

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    someone from inside usada is going to leak it. or someone that conducted to lab testing himself.

    this info is easily 15m-20m to floyd/usada.

    someone's head at usada is gonna roll if this doc is leaked.

    it's jst few seconds of upload away.
     
  15. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How is Pacqauio my hero?

    Cotto won four rounds but it was a competitive fight nonetheless, even in the rounds that he lost.

    JMM at least had the balls to fight Manny four times, Floyd hasn't even fought him once and you are projecting that because JMM beat him, Floyd would also win. Well maybe but we don't know until they fight each other.
     
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