The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

No I mean facts not opinions or rumors from someone.

Hell rumor is Manny was getting shot in the ass with needles at Wild Card.

I don't care about rumors.

Documentation beats conversation every time. :deal

 

i dont think pac really deserves "justice" being that he's already gotten gift decisions against marquez(especially in the third). honestly, i don't see pac ever truly beating marquez. if he tries to box him, it'll look like the third fight, if he goes all out, he'll get caught with something big again. the fact that he didn't go for the kill against Bam Bam tells us that he's become gun-shy after being KO'd.
anyway, i just dont see a reason for JMM to give him a shot unless he gets the bigger purse. kinda meaningless after a KO like that. the whole point of the constant rematches was finally find a decisive winner and fourth fight proved who it was.

 

^This.

I wish people would stop trying to ruin two of the all time great's names based on bull**** "rumors". These two guys are legends, in their primes, and we get to watch them throw down live. People can ***** and moan about stuff that isn't even true, or they can enjoy the fights.

 

glad to hear this from you, MVC! . I knew that you're a Pac fan ! :good


Anyway the Pac vs Floyd fight should've been made in 2008-2009 when Pac still was in his prime.

To be a legit fight today, Pac has to win very clearly the rematch vs Bradley and both fighters ie Floyd and Pac be OSD tested by VADA, not USADA ! :good

 

He didnt go all out in the 4th though. Stylistically, Pac looks 1million dollars against JMM before the KO (Edit: And knockdown. I'm not saying he was killing the fight, but he did look great in it and looked set to win an all out war). I can't remember fully, but I believe it might have been to do with his foot placement and his jab counter. I can't remember 100% though so don't call me on that. Pac FINALLY did what he needed to do...and got sparked. He obviously wants the retribution, but JMM shouldnt take it. As you said, the dude could well have won 4 fights out of 4, he doesnt need to deal with that **** anymore.

I don't think he's "gunshy". He still looks in perfect condition against Rios, as good as ever. I did think he didn't like getting punched all the same.

I think Pacquiao wins a rematch, but he doesn't deserve one.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez , Bernard Hopkins, Carl Froch

always excuses !! & cry robbery!

 

^Good solutions. Pac would have a hard time dominating Bradley, but it'd be a good precursor to Mayweather's style. Mayweather wouldnt want the VADA ****, so it's a good compromise. Pac shouldnt even think about making demands on money now though.

 

Im as frustrated as the next fan we will never see this fight I truly dont believe floyd is scared

He just has such a big ego about how good he is, he looks down on pac and cant believe the fans even consider him the one to take his 0 so likely thinks ok ill fight him but I will let him know im doing him a favour by letting him share the ring with me and will take every advantage and why not didnt DLH do that to floyd?

for the record I like Pac but Floyd will beat him no doubt in my mind

 

1. He uses his shoulder roll on the inside against Southpaws bc the Southpaw angle is taking away. His defense isn't just about the shoulder roll or the high guard. Its about foot work, reflexes, range.

2. He does right hand counter against them as well just like he does against orthodox. The problem you have is that you don't see him pull countering over the left jab like he does an orthodox so you don't watch for those counters. Hell he countered several times against the last Southpaw he faced in May.

3. He also jabbed against his last Southpaw opponent. Actually stabbed the hell out of him with that jab.

Now you want to bring up Spadafora sparring session? I can tell you've never boxed. Sparring is sparring and Floyd got in the ring to get in some work and help Paul out who was in top form for his upcoming fight while Floyd had been out of the gym for damn near a year. :deal

You know what dude there is no point in wasting time. If we are going to be on here and talk boxing then lets talk boxing. Actually break down the fight with boxing and based on what these guys do. Cause right now you're talking bull

 

"Why not?".

Cause for the rest of the greatest of all time's life, he will be linked to Pacquiao. He will HATE that.

But you can't say May is afraid of his 0 anymore, I agree. Alvarez, on paper, was a huge test, which no one will ever admit.

 

Here is the thing about the 4th fight that people don't seem to pay attention to.

JMM had justas much to do with how good Manny looked than Manny did bc JMM went into that fight looking for a knockout. He wasn't in their to box, give movement and make Pac look lost like he did the 3rd fight. He was going for a knockout. Manny was too and they went to war. Manny lost that war.

Now JMM could have just boxed off the back foot and did a repeat of the 3rd fight which everyone including Manny knows JMM won the 3rd as well.

 

cant argue with that.

i dont think he's super gunshy, but judging by his post fight interview when max asked why didn't he go for the KO, and he said something like "i dont want to get reckless and get caught with something big" kinda lets us know that being KO'd is in the back of his mind and it's affected him. the pac prior to JJM IV would've tried to put on a show and finish rios. the crazy part is that Rios is tailor made for him to look like a monster again and he didn't take advantage of it. it was shut out but he couldve done so much more.

 

Yeah I suppose you're right. It's unlucky for Pac that JMM succeeded, because it was really his chance to put his rival back in place. What better time than when JMM is opening up, AND in the 4th.

 

floyd scared? Floyd condemned by people who have never boxed in there lives, is what i have a problem with!

 

Well you have a right to have a problem with that. What they fail to realize is that neither fighter is afraid of the other. It doesn't work like that in boxing. The people who call Floyd or any other boxer a coward are the ones who never stepped foot in a boxing gym or a ring.