WAR! Prime Dwight "Camden Buzzsaw" Qawi VS Prime David "Terminator" Tua

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  1. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    The intense and hungry 27 year old Dwight Qawi that took on Matthew Saad Muhammad and destroyed him on the night of December 19, 1981 VS The motivated and aggressive 23 year old David Tua that tried to kill John Ruiz with that MONSTER left hook while Ruiz was slumped on the ropes. Keep in mind that a motivated David Tua is no joke and he's as dangerous of an opponent as it gets. There has really been only been two times in Tua's pro career where he was truly motivated and really wanted to hurt his opponent. The second time was in 2009 when Shane Cameron called him old and washed up to the press in an interview and we saw how badly David Tua brutalized Shane Cameron in that match, the vicious left hook that knocked down Shane Cameron in the first round and left him with a black eye was definitely thrown with sinister intention. The following story is of the first time:

    "When New Zealand's David Tua saw Johnny Ruiz's corner treating him with contempt on the March 15 make-or-break night of his 23-fight professional career at the Atlantic City Convention Centre, Dr Jekyll became Mister Hyde. "I just looked at this guy and his handlers and thought that in their minds the fight was over before it started," says Tua. "They were too ****y and I didn't like their attitude, treating me as though I was nothing."

    Standing there in his corner, nervous but totally focused, Tua knew he was in the best shape of his life. His eyes bored into the tall, arrogant Ruiz, the World Boxing Council's international champion and winner of 25 of his 27 fights, 17 by knockout. Tua saw not a fighter, or even a man, but an enemy who was "trying to steal my dream away from me and all the things I want to be able to give my family." It is the steadfast love of his family which feeds Tua's boxing ambition, fuels his killer instinct and brings out the beast in him when Jekyll becomes Hyde.

    "You have to release that beast," he explains. "Boxing is not a game like rugby, league or soccer. It's for real, not something you play at. I'm a nice guy outside the ring but, in it, I'm the beast, because the bottom line is nice guys come last." Ruiz never had a hope from the moment he walked jauntily into Tua's first explosive left hook which rocked him onto the ropes and subjected him to a brutal barrage. Ruiz was out cold as a frog and on his way down when Tua's last thunderous hook slammed him to the canvas before the referee counted him out.

    This time the crowd applauded Tua as they never had before. Ruiz is no patsy, but the real McCoy, a fighter who was seen by many experienced American judges as a genuine future world heavyweight contender, not as highly regarded as Briggs, but a fighter of genuine ability. This wasn't a fight. It was an execution, Mike Tyson style, by a nuggety, 23-year-old New Zealand-domiciled Samoan whose physique bore a remarkable resemblance to the man rated the most feared fighter on the planet. They cheered mightily as they clipped Ruiz's belt around Tua's waist minutes before an ambulance drove the badly-concussed former international champion to hospital, his neck in a brace, his dream shattered.

    Hailing from San Juan, Puerto Rico, but campaigning out of Chelsea, Massachusetts, Ruiz had been ranked the No. 1 heavyweight amateur in America and No. 6 in the world. He represented the United States against Sweden and Ireland and won on both occasions, picking up the outstanding boxer award each time. Ruiz was also New England and New York Golden Gloves champion and was the Olympic Festival champion, and had a win over Torsten May, a former two-time world amateur champion who won an 1992 Olympic gold medal at Barcelona in a lighter division. Ruiz turned pro in 1992 and started 1995 with an impressive 10-round win over world -ranked Boris Powell, who had won all 23 of his previous fights. Ruiz won three more in England, the third a second-round KO against Derrick Roddy for the WBC International title. Immediately prior to Tua, he returned to the States to notch impressive wins over Willie Jackson and Steve Pannel. Having burst Ruiz's bubble, Tua is at last being taken seriously as a genuine world contender on the night the best young heavyweights paraded their wares. There were some class acts among them. None, however, demonstrated the ferocious, unbridled power of Tua The Terminator."
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Any one who is small and charges into Tua gets absolutely murdered.

    Qawi is just too small.
     
  3. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua would be to much for Qawi. Qawi wasn't ever big enough to compete with a heavyweight with the size and power of David Tua. The other day I watched Qawi take on Big George Foreman and it was one of the most epic things I've ever seen to see the 5'6 Qawi stand toe to toe with the massive Foreman for 7 rounds though eventually had to retire because Foreman was clearly too much for him to handle. IMO Pound for pound Qawi in his prime was the better fighter but wouldn't stand a chance in a fight against the bigger Tua.
     
  4. LobowolfXXX

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    I think the mist you can say for Qawi in this fight is that he'd be up on points at the time of the stoppage.
     
  5. tommy the hat

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    Qawi too small to mess with a prime Tua. Tua bigger and stronger and Qawi's prime was at lt heavy and cruiserweight, not heavyweight.
     
  6. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    But still Qawi is a BEAST of a fighter, yeah Tua possesses superior firepower by virtue of his genetics but on the night Dwight Qawi destroyed Saad Muhammad, he fought with an inhuman amount of HEART and INTENSITY! If he brings that type of intensity into this WAR against Tua, it will NOT be an easy win for Tua. Also, don't forget that Qawi has an extremely efficient defense, he was a master at making guys miss and countering immediately.
     
  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Being from East Philly (or Camden as some people call it!), I thought I might be as big of a Qawi fan as there was around....but you, sir, have surpassed me. I also am in the camp of calling Tua the most overrated boxer on this forum....but Tua would be to much for Qawi. He might even be able to stop him...either way this is not a great Qawi match-up. Perhaps a Toney-Qawi fight would be a better comparison. Although I find Qawi greater than Tua, I don't believe he was better than Tua if that makes sense?
     
  8. mcvey

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    Saad was on the slide.Qawi would be stopped by every hard punching heavyweight he was a fine lhvy ,but out of his class here.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ...Saad was a 175'er. The step up to a murderous punching Tua is gigantic.
     
  10. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A boar is a fine beast, but it can't hang with an elephant.
     
  11. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Johnny Davis originally demonstrated that the most effective weapon for scoring on and backing up early Qawi was a big left hook, but Johnny couldn't keep it up over longer distances like Frazier would have. Early or late, Tua definitely had the hook to handle Dwight. Mismatch here.
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Qawi was much better in a pound for pound sense,but Tua would be too big. Over four stone heavier at their respective bests.
     
  13. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Qawi that stopped Saad was light heavy, Tua was a full fledged heavyweight, so this is a moot point, this fight wouldn't even be sanctioned, or allowed by the boxing commission..
    I think a Tua - Morrison fight in 1996, would have been more competitive, and both were in their prime in 1996..
     
  14. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    Qawi actually has a 1 inch reach advantage over Tua and he throws a MEAN jab. But who has the advantage in hand speed?
     
  15. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Qawi was like a Pitbull..his low centre of gravity was turned into an advantage against taller fighters, Here its like a Pitbull against a hungry Hyena he has no advantages....i know who i feel would be laughing...and fairly quickly..