The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

so you admit the take the test and 40m this and that were jst smokescreen?

we are in agreement then.:good

 

Tko6

 

Floyd belongs to the 0.01%.

 

LOL The test was never rejected. 40m with no PPV. :rofl Who's Floyd kidding?

 

Ktfo6

 

Pack needs and wish he could get that 40 million now, and probably wishing he wouldn't have fired VisionQuest.

 

Catchweights

 

This thread makes its reappearenve for the first time in quite a while.

 

You're an armchair expert. I very well know the difference between foot speed and footwork. Pacquiao has great footwork. Not from a fans pov, but from an analytical pov.

And great footwork doesn't just mean how well you can get your foot on the outside vs a certain fighter. Great footwork can mean, how well can you position yourself to land a 3-4 punch combination? Any idea how hard it is to land a jab, yet alone a combination on a world class moving boxer? It can mean, how well can he create angles using his feet. It can mean, how well can he recover balance and move out of position after throwing a punch or 2. His whole game of maintaining that mid distance between his opponent, not too far and too close is all about footwork, without good footwork he will never be in a position to control the fight. In pretty much all of his fights, he controlled the fighting distance, that says enough.

That requires far more than athleticism, that control is called footwork. If you don't believe me, get Usain Bolt who has incredible foot athleticism and see if he can replicate that same movements. He cant.

And like I said, when you have credentials like Manny Steward, who has "dun forgotten more about footwork than you will ever know", then feel free to disagree with him on analysing whether a boxers footwork is good or not.

 

A armchair expert is someone who has never done it on any level such as yourself. I boxed from the age of 7 till I was 17 so I have been in a ring and trained. I still train till this day to stay in shape. I don't have to be a professional boxer or trainer to know that Manny's foot speed isn't great. You can mention Steward all you want to but I will stand by what said. Manny has decent foot work that isn't great. Even gave you the perfect example. You taking it personal and if it was so great then his trainer wouldn't have been pleading with his ass when JMM was mind F****ing him with his foot work. I never said that foot work is just about getting your foot on the outside either. Their is a reason why Manny has trouble with guys who have great foot work and lateral movement and part of that reason is his foot work which is not great like you think.

Manny doesn't have great foot work and his foot speed is what helps him get away with it and camouflage it.

Slow footed ass James has/had great foot work but not foot speed and his is way better than Manny's but I bet you a million bucks that most people wouldn't agree with that. You getting all butt hurt bc someone does agree with your god. I bet you think he can cut the ring off too.

 

Never done it myself, yet been posting on training section of this site since I joined. I've boxed for over 10 years and coached and I can tell you that anyone who claims Manny has poor footwork has absolutely 0 clue on what constitutes good footwork or not, other than their flashy ideas of what footwork should be. There is different types of footwork, but your idea of footwork is all about efficiency, which for an offensive machine like Pacquiao who is also usually with the shorter reach, he has to make and create the space so he has to do more with his feet. Pacquiao caused Bradley to sprain his ankle, he was twisting and turning him so much...yep, that doesn't require great footwork.

I mention Manny Steward because Steward is an ATG trainer who knows more about footwork than you will ever know, and has seen Pacquiao up close. He has basically rendered your opinion useless on the matter. Attempting to make out your opinion is correct and Stewards is wrong on a matter where he is a legendary teacher at, is just plain :rofl

 

Who said he had poor foot work? I said it wasn't great and bottom line is his foot work looks great against flat footed guys where he can use his foot speed to get away with a lot of his mistakes he makes regarding his foot work.

 

Yet he sprained Bradley's ankle, a very good boxer, because he twisted and turned him so much. What you think, Pac did a handstand and do that?

 

Which had nothing do with Manny's foot work. Bradley was trying to get the **** away from them punches and rolled his ankle coming out.
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Had nothing to do with foot work.

 

I agree with you there, Bradley rolled his ankles because he was trying to get away. He was probably already dazed from those punches.

My position on Manny's footwork is that although Manny throws punches and ends up off balanced and has trouble getting lead foot position, its that same awkward footwork that allows punches from odd angles, and openings that other guys wouldn't be able to create.