constant presure is the way to beat floyd

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    pacquaio applies preassure with speed
     
  2. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i'm not going to sit here and act like i know how to beat floyd ahem ahem intentionalbutt ahem ahem lol but if i had to take a wild guess it would be to have a chin made out of diamonds causing floyd to break both his hands and then get lucky with a huge ko punch to put floyd to sleep lol
     
  3. boxing_master

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    even if floyd beats manny doesnt change fact he was scared of him
     
  4. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    But the thing you aren't realizing is that it could be used against Manny. Floyd has fast feet, better foot work, timing and hand speed. You have to apply pressure to Floyd behind a jab and not just with your feet. People better realize that Floyd knows that speed game. He grew up in the gym with fast ass guys.

    People can say what they want but Zab had great foot speed especially when he was younger and Floyd has sparred guys from back in the day that had fast feet.

    JMM who has slower feet than Floyd and levels below foot work was able to neutralize Manny's foot speed with lateral movement and he was just taking steps.

    Floyd is capable of the same thing but Floyd can take quicker and larger steps and be way out of range.
     
  5. progamer

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    marquez is orthodox with short arms and slow. once floyd rolls that shoulder, marquez had no chance.

    that same shoulder roll wont work against pac's left straight.

    against pac, he needs to move for 12 rounds which he wont be able to do at age 38.

    unless his testosterone level magically becomes that of a 20yr old *cough*usada trt exemption clause*cough*.

    pac by shattered glass if floyd accepts vada test.:deal
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you may be right on that
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Can someone please tell me who constant pressure is not effective against? I've been reading this for years, like it means something.

    Yes, if you can keep constant pressure on ANY FIGHTER, that is going to be affective on that fighter. Unfortunately, the better the fighter to hand, the harder to keep the pressure on that fighter.

    And that's boxing 101 type stuff.
     
  8. tennis

    tennis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course Paul Williams would have destroyed floyd (or anyone) at 147

    2009 PAC may have shattered that glass too
     
  9. Imperial1

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    You have to walk through fire like Hagler did to Hearns to get to Mayweather ..I thought Victor. Ortiz had a decent game plan until his dumb ass headbutted him !
     
  10. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Son of Puga please get a knew comment bc what you say makes no freaking sense.

    Floyd's defense isn't just about the shoulder roll. He uses it against Southpaws on the inside bc the angle is gone there and he shells up then. On the outside he uses the high guard but even that isn't everything to do with his defense. Its about his foot work, reflexes, head and upper body movement.

    Pacquiao is already facing a 5 inch reach advantage and a height advantage. Floyd has the foot work, foot speed and reaction time to make Manny over extend trying to land that straight left and he will walk into a right hand. :deal
     
  11. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao is an in and out fighter. He does not apply constant pressure, which is what you're saying is the key to beating Mayweather.
     
  12. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :deal:lol:
     
  13. progamer

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    lol attacking the poster now because you cant refute what im saying.

    doenst matter.

    so you agree floyd's shoulder roll doesnt work in the outside/mid range?

    we are in agreement then. this is a fact now.

    on inside, is no longer called pac's straight, it's called uppercut lol.

    how the frack can pac throw a straight if floyd is 2 inches infront of him.

    like i said before, pac can clinch or push on the inside like he did with rios. and he is strong on the clinch too. you can see it in the rios and hattong fights.

    reach and length can work against floyd. at the same speed, pac's punches connect sooner because they travel shorter distance.

    anyhow, pac has as he has shown in the past, can negate length and height advantage with his footspeed.

    floyd on high guard:

    1. his stomach is exposed, pac can exploit this.
    2. it disrupts his offense, bec with philly shell, his right hand is always ready to counter, after shoulder roll. he isnt with high guard, not with same torque anyway.

    for the reasons cited above, i dont believe floyd isnt doing high guard against pac. he is squared up and stationary, or walking the opponent down with a high guard. that is a disaster against pac.

    the reflexes and agility diminish with age. floyd isnt a spring chicken anymore.

    im calling this now, if floyd accepts vada, pac by ko/tko. his chin can not withstand a pac's straight.
     
  14. FIN

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    Only pressure fighter in the last 30 years that had a good chance of beating Floyd is Aaron Pryor..
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You are a true idiot. I never said anything about Manny throwing a straight left on the inside. I clearly stated that Floyd will go to the philly shell on the inside bc the Southpaw angle is gone with the Southpaw more squared up. Also once again Floyd holds Southpaws to low connect % every time out while landing at the same rate he does against orthodox. You say Floyd isn't a spring chicken well neither is Manny and Manny's way of fight will not last longer than Floyd's.

    Yes if Floyd accepts Vada who will only test him 2 times instead of 6. :patsch