constant presure is the way to beat floyd

you are the idiot. i clearly stated floyd can not defend pac\s straight with a shoulder. instead of answering this you go into inside this, isquare hthat. i take that was a yes.

ok so answer this, can floyds's shoulder roll defend pac/s left straight on outside/midrange? yes or no?

its random/urine blood, isnt what you fanboys were clamoring about? who the frack knows how many. it is random, do you understand what random means?

 

I have clearly stated on several threads that he can. You are too busy worrying about his shoulder roll instead of looking at every thing Floyd is capable of doing. For example Son of Puga, Floyd could simply make Manny over extend by getting out of range and circling left. Manny has to close distance on a guy who has fast feet and great foot work to go with timing. On top of that you expect him to land his left all night without a damn jab. atsch :huh

 

Yeah it's not like he did that against Oscar all night

 

You clearly don't understand boxing. I bet you couldn't understand why Manny was struggling so bad in the JMM 3 fight as well.

So let me educate you. Floyd when facing Southpaws uses the high guard on the outside. Why bc he is an orthodox and shelling up can protect him from the Southpaw right but the angle is not there for the left hand.

Now Floyd will shell up on the inside bc the Southpaw angle is gone. That is why he uses his high guard.

Now defense in boxing isn't just about using a high guard or any of that. Defense is much more than where you place your hands. See your idol likes to ear muff but his defense isn' t just about that. Head movement plays a part in that. You don't see Southpaws landing a bunch of lefts on Floyd and there is a reason why. I hope these assholes can agree to a fight and when they do remember all this **** you are talking and remember that when Floyd bust his ass on the inside and remember this when Manny gets over extended and popped hard on that chin time after time.

 

Floyd and Oscar are two totally different fighters in every way. atsch

 

Yeah lets take Hatton, Jesus Chavez, Cotto, Ortiz...

Pressure is only PART of what it takes to beat Floyd, and Pac isn't a pressure fighter.

 

Forgot to add that OP DKSAB.

 

They don't seem to understand that he isn't a pressure fighter. They also think he will pressure Floyd without having a jab at all. Uneducated pressure will get you clipped by Floyd.

 

wtf floyd outclassed hatton in every round? i saw that fight like month ago and it was even fight after 6 rounds and then floyd started to take over and ko'd ricky! I had never saw that fight before and was very impressed how well ricky performed (had it happened with biased ref in england who knows who would have won )

Floyd won but i would say ricky put better fight than most of guys who went the distance with floyd.

I would still like to see Paq vs Floyd but at this point i would make Floyd clear favorite.

 

manny & pressure! manny does not have the inside fighting skills or IQ OFF ROBERTO DURAN DOES HE! manny,has been neutralized by infereior boxers, has he not?
stop this nonsense folks!

 

JL Castillo laid out the blueprint. Pressure, stay in close, go to the body and sneak in the head shots while Mayweather is protecting his body.

The key is to be physically strong and body up to Mayweather, kind of like the fight that Juan Diaz attempted to fight vs Juan Manuel Marquez.

Got to have the ability to take shots because Floyd's going to land his, and got to have the will to keep marching foward with pressure, bobbing and weaving, parrying incoming from Mayweather so that you can set yourself up to still be up close when Floyd is through firing his punches.


There's a problem here for Manny Pacquiao though. Manny is'nt a get in your face and stay up close fighter.
Pacquiao does his damage on the way in and rarely stays up close to work at close quarters.

Point blank, the dillema for Pacquiao here is that even if he attempted to fight this type of fight, Mayweather is far Superior than Pacquiao in fighting in those close quarters. He'd tear Pacquiao apart outmanuevering Pacquiao on the inside.

Pacquiao's only real chance is to throw his hands to punch when Mayweather does and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.
Mayweather being the cautious one to initiate, Pacquiao is going to have a hell of a time trying to time Mayweather when he's punching.



"Constant pressure!" Pacquiao does'nt bring that to a ring. :nut

 

There is no way to beat Floyd yet. I can say how to beat Pacquiao, Oscar, Marquez, Castillo, Morales, Barrera, Dawson, Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, etc.

They've all been beaten. Until someone does it, theres no way to beat someone, and you can't have a successful blueprint if the project has never been completed.

Stop saying there is a way to beat Floyd until you see someone do it. Before that its all speculation.

Also that was 6 years ago. He's lost speed obviously, but he's smarter than ever. and more efficient than ever . that two year lay off is the smartest thing he ever did. he prolonged his career, and got smarter along the way.

 

Manny is vulnerable to body shots / right hands/uppercuts! These punches have shown by marquez, have they not?

 

For some people, the end result means to them that Hatton was outclassed.
I agree with you. Up to a round or two before the KO, the fight was competitive all the way through.
Hatton started to tire, and Floyd who's physically one of the very best conditioned fighters of his era, took full advantage and started to find the room and creeces to work Hatton.

 

Wrong! Alot of people are of the opinion that Castillo beat Mayweather, so there is a blueprint.
The great Julio Cesar Chavez' sparring partner beat Floyd in many people's opinion! :deal