Ward needs to move to 175, a real weight division....

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ward will stay at 168 and Oakland for the rest of his career. He's talented but he needs to fight away.
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward is on the A side. Why does he have to move up? In a perfect world Ward moves up and fights these guys but this is business. He's the man at 168 and p4p #2. He doesn't need to drop everything he's earned and take huge risks in a division he's not best at. That's for guys on the B side. Ward will move up when he can't make smw no more, not just to chase a fight.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Funny................Ward and his fans want all the other fighters to go up in weight, but Ward refuses, Hell, Ward even refused to fight Stevenson at 168! Ward refuses to fight anywhere except his home town, with his referee, judges, boxing commission, commentators, etc.
     
  4. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    farmboxer, why didnt hagler move up then? After all, it was only one division right? if its so easy, why the ll dont you do it! You a chump farmboxer?
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    You're saying that even after the Groves-Froch fight? :lol:
     
  6. jonbonez152

    jonbonez152 EASTSIDEBOXING KING Full Member

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    You mean the weight class that got dominated by the number 10 rated SMW?
     
  7. Mathhysse112

    Mathhysse112 New Member Full Member

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    Wards smart but not stupid big kov would end him quick !!
     
  8. ajillusions

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    Kovalev or Stevenson are two options, who are the options at 168? Ward has little to prove at 168, really.
     
  9. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    He can have it in his own backyard, ref and judges don't matter when you're on your back.
     
  10. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    160-175 - 15lbs
    168-175 - 7lbs (and Ward can't make middle which Hagler could).
     
  11. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Buy good enough to be Olympic champ at?
     
  12. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    Surely he wants recognition though, no one cares about him anymore. He's got no one to fight at 168, he's already dragged Dawson down from 175, and I can't see anyone else coming down for him. If he fights people coming up people will just accuse him of fighting blown up middleweights.

    How long can he stay at P4P No.2 for if he has no one good to fight, he needs to challenge himself, not constantly rock up in Oakland fighting well inside his comfort zone against sub standard opposition because he doesn't have enough pull to get one of the big names at 168 back in a ring with him.

    Who wants to go into an almost guaranteed beating in someones backyard for peanuts? That's why the Froch fight won't get made, Dirrell seems to not want to fight anyone, ever, Kessler is past his sell by date. In all honesty who is he going to fight at 168 that's respectable and affordable? Oh and is willing to go and fight in Oakland.

    Don't get me wrong Ward IS the best super middle, but he has no draw and won't fight outside CA, so theres no fights out there for him. His promoter doesn't seem to have particularly deep pockets either, there must be a reason he's only fought twice since 2011 afterall.
     
  13. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's only fought in Oakland like 5 or 6 times.
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    dawson challenged him at 168 dumbass
     
  15. anthony jr

    anthony jr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    another couple of months some one else will burst on the scene and the same fickle boxing fans will be on there nuts.