Bob Fitzsimmons Vs Jim Corbett Veriscope Film

For you film guys, I heard the company Iron Mountain who specializes in tape back up and preservation is a treasure trove of older films, newspapers, and magazines. Perhaps there is some boxing gold in their storage archives?

 

According to Steve Lott, Iron Mountain was the company ESPN used to store the boxing films they bought from the Cayton/Jacobs library. But there are probably no other boxing collections stored by Iron Mountain.

 

I agree with Steve on the Cayton/Jacobs collection, but disagree with the rest.

Iron Mountain has archived numerous media companies information. For example, some news organizations or TV networks archive their video clips, and photos some of which could be boxing. Much of what we think is vanished might be archived.

Right now its expensive to active the tapes and convert to video in a steaming format, but in the future it won't be

 

I'm sure they have everything cataloged.

Businesses are always looking for additional revenue streams. If Iron Mountain was smart, they build a computer web site that confirms what they have and silently contact the owner if someone is willing to pay for a copy. This to me sounds plausible.

Iron Mountain is in a declining business. Tape is losing market share to disk and cloud based services. The the cost per gig is something like pennies at most. Most films that run 60 minutes do not take up more than say 10 gig's unless is a high definition video.

 

Klompton,

The price for viewing depends on the market. Personally I would shell out more than the current PPV boxing show to see a few ring legends in action. This topic is not confined to boxing. Its everything. Owners of the footage will offer what they have for a price.

Like I said the cost of conversion from tape or film to video will go down as time passes. I disagree, there is a point where it becomes profitable. For example the family of Martin Luther King makes their living on his films and speeches. That is but a fragment of what is archived by Iron Mountain and companies like them.

 

Can never really truly satisfactorily make my mind up about this fight.

I know they look primitive but the film itself is primitive.

Is there really enough here to analyse the stylistic nuances of both fighters?

I am fully confident the knockout blow landed by Fitz required a huge dose of skill.

But what about the movement around the ring, the hand position for defensive purposes.

How much can we really draw from this? Is it fair to dismiss the two as primitive and without chance in the modern era, or can we look deeper than the jerry movements and pick out positives from the old footage?

Fitz was a legend. I just don't know how someone so good can actually have been so bad. Is there something I'm missing or is it just wishful thinking on my behalf?

If we had the rematch with Jeffries when Fitz busted him up, would we still be dismissing him as primitive?

 

What a great thread, I love it K, is surprising cos he is taking the time to explain stuff, mendoza who is usually in a scuffle is exchanging stuff, even Pollack joined in. Thank you guys for sharing. Forgot to add and everybody is behaving themselves, please more threads like this

 

Cool.
Great old thread with good info and analysis!

 

It's a shame we won't ever get to see the full extent of Klompton's archive, so much history and it likely dusts up after his eventual passing.

 

Indeed my friend, what a legend,

 

I remember when Baclava used to post rare films regularly.Shame he was shouted at

 

I’m assuming that more footage of the fight has been released publicly since Klomp’s original post back in 2013.

The first clip A is about a 20 mins worth.

The second clip B is about 8 mins containing cleaned up HLs and some footage before first bell, not contained in clip A.

Pretty damned lucky to have this at least, imo.

In just two more years, these films will be 130 years old. Amazing.

Clip A

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Clip B

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