Tua vs Holyfield circa '96-'97?

And he threw some occassional punches against Lewis too, but we all still say he "turtled"

It doesn't literally mean, he didn't throw anything back, but in general, he was hiding in his shell while his busier opponent piled on points.

 

You should really watch some actual boxing matches before getting on here to post, Holyfield dropped Tyson with his head not his "accuracy and timing is everything." Unless you meant that Holyfield could drop Tua by headbutting him which is still highly improbable, as Holyfield's shiny dome crashing against Tua's thick skull is like a Ferrari crashing into a Hummer.

 

He dropped an off balance Tyson with a legal punch.

**** on this Tua hugger, not worth my time. Go find an actual great fighter to nut hug.

The only boxing you ever watched is Tua highlight videos apparently. Done nothing but talk trash.

 

When a fighter gets deliberately headbutted a dozen times, that fighter tends to become slightly disorientated, just a tad bit.

What you're mad because I said Holyfield's headbutting wouldn't work on Tua?

 

Tua getting laid out by 2 Gunz at the same age a far more shop worn Holyfield gave Lewis a close fight for the undisupted title.

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Was that the fight where Tua broke Barrett's jaw or is it the other one? Still doesn't change the fact that Holyfield's headbutts wouldn't have an effect on Tua.

 

"How many belts you got, Tuaman? There was plenty to go around. I heard a terrible rumor you got dropped and drew with an out of shape Rahman in your last eliminator"

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You mean the one he lost?

 

As if a belt means anything when John Ruiz out of all people won 2 of em, 1 of which he took from your hero Holyfield.

 

Of course a belt means nothing to go a guy who got humilated everytime he came close to sniffing at one.

And after a long hard successful Hall of Fame career, its ok for a former Champion to split fights with younger top 5 fighters. Something Tua won't ever be able to understand.

Well, Tua may have got a shot at Ruiz, if he didn't get outboxed and dropped by an out of shape, heaviest of his career Rahman in the eliminator.

 

There's no way to get out of this one buddy. Holyfield got dropped by a clean Ruiz punch in the 11th round of their second fight, the same fight in which Ruiz took his WBA belt.

 

He was pushing 40 and still deserved the decision in the rubber match. At 41, Holyfield beat the same Rahman who **** blocked your boy's third failed attempt at capturing gold. What is Tua doing at that age? Losing to gate keepers.

Holyfield is a three time Champion of the World with a legendary resume. Tua can't carry his jock and you look like a fool, trying to trash talk and compare the two.

 

You put too much value in titles buddy, which is just a social construct. The reality is that Tua is THE most feared fighter of his era. Fans like you sit back and insult Tua without having ever stepped in a boxing ring and not having any idea of how hard it is to ACTUALLY FIGHT AGAINST an extremely dangerous opponent like David Tua but I guarantee you, EVERY boxer that fought in the heavyweight ranks of professional boxing during the 1990's KNEW EXACTLY who David Tua was and respected and feared him, even Lennox Lewis didn't want to have anything to do with Tua after getting a whiff of his left hook in the first round and resorted to dancing all night and that was an INJURED Tua fighting with a pulled muscle in his rib unable to lunge in like he usually does. A healthy and motivated Tua will destroy just about ANYBODY on ANY GIVEN NIGHT:

"When New Zealand's David Tua saw Johnny Ruiz's corner treating him with contempt on the March 15 make-or-break night of his 23-fight professional career at the Atlantic City Convention Centre, Dr Jekyll became Mister Hyde. "I just looked at this guy and his handlers and thought that in their minds the fight was over before it started," says Tua. "They were too ****y and I didn't like their attitude, treating me as though I was nothing."

Standing there in his corner, nervous but totally focused, Tua knew he was in the best shape of his life. His eyes bored into the tall, arrogant Ruiz, the World Boxing Council's international champion and winner of 25 of his 27 fights, 17 by knockout. Tua saw not a fighter, or even a man, but an enemy who was "trying to steal my dream away from me and all the things I want to be able to give my family." It is the steadfast love of his family which feeds Tua's boxing ambition, fuels his killer instinct and brings out the beast in him when Jekyll becomes Hyde.

"You have to release that beast," he explains. "Boxing is not a game like rugby, league or soccer. It's for real, not something you play at. I'm a nice guy outside the ring but, in it, I'm the beast, because the bottom line is nice guys come last." Ruiz never had a hope from the moment he walked jauntily into Tua's first explosive left hook which rocked him onto the ropes and subjected him to a brutal barrage. Ruiz was out cold as a frog and on his way down when Tua's last thunderous hook slammed him to the canvas before the referee counted him out.

This time the crowd applauded Tua as they never had before. Ruiz is no patsy, but the real McCoy, a fighter who was seen by many experienced American judges as a genuine future world heavyweight contender, not as highly regarded as Briggs, but a fighter of genuine ability. This wasn't a fight. It was an execution, Mike Tyson style, by a nuggety, 23-year-old New Zealand-domiciled Samoan whose physique bore a remarkable resemblance to the man rated the most feared fighter on the planet. They cheered mightily as they clipped Ruiz's belt around Tua's waist minutes before an ambulance drove the badly-concussed former international champion to hospital, his neck in a brace, his dream shattered.

Hailing from San Juan, Puerto Rico, but campaigning out of Chelsea, Massachusetts, Ruiz had been ranked the No. 1 heavyweight amateur in America and No. 6 in the world. He represented the United States against Sweden and Ireland and won on both occasions, picking up the outstanding boxer award each time. Ruiz was also New England and New York Golden Gloves champion and was the Olympic Festival champion, and had a win over Torsten May, a former two-time world amateur champion who won an 1992 Olympic gold medal at Barcelona in a lighter division. Ruiz turned pro in 1992 and started 1995 with an impressive 10-round win over world -ranked Boris Powell, who had won all 23 of his previous fights. Ruiz won three more in England, the third a second-round KO against Derrick Roddy for the WBC International title. Immediately prior to Tua, he returned to the States to notch impressive wins over Willie Jackson and Steve Pannel. Having burst Ruiz's bubble, Tua is at last being taken seriously as a genuine world contender on the night the best young heavyweights paraded their wares. There were some class acts among them. None, however, demonstrated the ferocious, unbridled power of Tua The Terminator."

 

You put too much value in titles buddy, which is just a social construct. The reality is that Tua is THE most feared fighter of his era...

I stopped reading after this crap.

Holyfield beating Douglas, Bowe, and Tyson for the Championship of the World is just a "social construct"...but Tua getting outclassed in alphabet title eliminators by Byrd and Rahman is the real deal.

 

Fans like you sit back and insult Tua without having ever actually stepping inside a boxing ring and not having ANY idea of how DANGEROUS it is to ACTUALLY FIGHT AGAINST an opponent like David Tua but I guarantee you, EVERY boxer that fought in the heavyweight ranks of professional boxing during the 1990's KNEW EXACTLY who David Tua was and respected and feared him, even Lennox Lewis didn't want to have anything to do with Tua after getting a whiff of his left hook in the first round and resorted to dancing all night and that was an INJURED Tua fighting with a pulled muscle in his rib unable to lunge in like he usually does. A healthy and motivated Tua will destroy just about ANYBODY on ANY GIVEN NIGHT.