Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

they are average without the size advantage, its true.

wlad is jab, run , jab, clinch before opponent hits, wrestle, REPEAT until you outlast opponent then hit him hard when hes knackered
vits - rely on chin whilst hitting hard and hoping for the best when young, and rely on opponents being **** when older.

the massive size advantage adds a good deal to wlads style, it makes him a pretty good HW.

 

There you go with your anti-whiteness again. Not even observant enough to spot talent when you see it.

 

yeah.. your right. Vitali has no talent at all... he would just get in the ring and hope for the best atschatsch.............you are fcuking clueless

 

If Wlad actually fought offensive minded he would take him out early, I don't just understand why he fights so offensively now.

Wlad from 01' would have stopped Povetkin in the first four.

The whole granite chin thing with Ali is just stupid, Mariusz Wach and Sam Peter were granite chinned, if the were nearly KO'd by a Henry Cooper equivalent of today (Zack Page) people would rip the **** out of them.

 

Vitali stops Clay late, it's not worth arguing about.

 

Referring more to Chambers, who did use the ring a fair amount against Wlad. So did Ibragimov. Wlad did handle them pretty easily...though I will grant that Ali operates at a different level and fights in a different style. Basically stating that movement and speed alone isn't the determining factor for Ali, is all. I still favor Ali in the match-up, though.

 

He's an anti-white liberal elitist snob. You shouldn't expect a logical discourse with people of his ilk. Totally worthless in every facet of the definition.

 

You mad? Heavyweight division is terrible. Klits are nowhere near that Ali league of athleticism and skill. Deal with it.

 

Who ever believes ali wins is a fool, he did not have the punching power to KO wlad, so were looking at a boxing match, wlad who is much better at ring general ship then ali. Would just use his jab, fastest an hardest jab ali will have ever seen. An wlad hook is the game changer, I think wlad might not throw a right for several rounds, but his left hook will be there, an that punch is common in wlads fight to catch is opponent off guard....

I say frazier or forman would stand a much better chance against wlad, same with listen.

 

Frazier to me is not the boxer ali is, but he had a lot more heart, I think ali developed more heart later on in his career, but in the beginning he was just talent whipping up on a lot of non-talented boxers. I think frazier last well into the 6th maybe 7th, he comes forward, that will be his undoing, an likes to lunge with his punches. Wlad not going to hit the body, that will give frazier a few rounds, an I could see him maybe tiring wlad out, MAYBE, that would be his chance, I really don't think ali would be anything more then a one sided beat down after the third round with were ali just trying to lie on ropes an move away. Ali never faced power an boxing skills in one boxer as wlad has,.....................NEVER:good

 

:good

:good

 

This fight would be boring, way too much holding and not just from Wlad!

 

how is this even a discussion?

 

Why not simplify the equation and ask if both fighters were age 36 years, who would win?


Most likely not Ali.