Boxing 101: Health Should ALWAYS COME FIRST.

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  1. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watching what Magomed Abdusalamov has went through, as well as the Ali's, and Sugar Ray's of the world. Health should always come first in boxing, it should come first before anything.

    They mock Floyd, when he says "my health comes first" and People say "They should trade blows, a real warrior would fight to the death"

    With all due respect...thats absolutely ridiculous. This is sport, not a coliseum duel...Though it is a violent sport, the name of the game is still winning.

    Fighters have styles, just like any other athletes in sports. When fighters try to fight in ways that aren't in their best interest, for the purpose of pleasing fans, thats when they lose.

    These are human beings and this is a brutal sport. The man that can participate in this sport, make a ton of money and leave with his mental and physical faculties is the winner.

    Not the guy with slurred speech, pennies to his name and one who is holding on to nothing more than the respect from fans that say: "He fought in some wars, he was a real warrior."

    How many bills does that pay? What happens when you can't walk your daughter down the aisle in 15 years?

    They say: Real fighters are the ones "who impacted the world and took the chances to fight everyone and risk it all for the fans."

    Risk it all for the fans for what? So somebody you never met in your life can regard you as great but you're still a shell of yourself in front of children and wife? Stumbling, slurring your speech, and walking around with a cane, only to be stopped in the street occasionally by full capable human beings with all their faculties who say " Hey, way to go champ, you're a real warrior"

    Come on. don't ask another man to do something you wouldn't be willing to do yourself.

    This is a business as much as it is a sport.

    The art of the sport has always been to hit and not get hit.

    It takes a real coward to say anything about a boxer "quitting", or putting his health first.

    People were bad mouthing Alvarado when he decided not to come back out against Ruslan. As if the man doesnt have family to go home to, a mother to hug, sons to guide, daughters to protect.

    Boxing is a sport, and it's a job. This isn't a rocky movie with fake blood, fake swellings. There is no one yelling "action" and "cut", there are no redos. They are taking these punches, to their faces. Every outing.

    Every punch that every fighter takes has a chance to seriously injure them.
    Be grateful for the sport we have and are able to watch.

    I love a good fight like everyone else, but no one deserves to be disabled or battered over this stuff.

    Theres nothing cool about taking damage, whether its Pacquiao getting knocked out, Ali with Parkinsons, Sugar Ray with a detached retina, or Magomed Abdusalamov in a coma.

    These guys put their lives on the line to entertain. Accept them for what they are and keep your opinions to yourself. Because you and I both know damn well. NO ONE here, or any of those bloggers, or vloggers can/ or would be willing to take those punches.

    These dudes have to live on 30-40 years after their careers end. Life doesnt stop after boxing, and it shouldn't stop during either.

    Health should always come first. It's always the most important thing.

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  2. yingyang

    yingyang Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you're gonna reason your health comes first just to avoid the fight... then boxing is not your sports.
     
  3. good boy

    good boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didnt read, was long as ****

    Maybe boxing is not the sport for you, if you dont want to see people hurt maybe take up swimming? Tennis?
     
  4. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with much of what you posted but it's a rough sport and , as with all professional sports, fans control everything. Most fans want to get their money's worth. That unfortunately means that fights will sometimes go longer than it probably should have(Abdusalamov-Perez, Kirkland-Tapia), but then you can get classics like Bradley-Provodnikov, Rios-Alvarado, Geale-Barker or Maidana-Khan.
    In addition, promoters are (unfortunately) aware that there are plenty of people out there who would take an ass whooping for far less than some of these guys are getting paid. That means that there's sometimes added pressure on fighters to create action(and a fan base) instead of follow the easiest path to victory. It's sad, but it's a brutal sport and it's a business.
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Tennis can be brutal too. Once took a big serve right in the cojones... not pretty man, not pretty. :-:)D
    And do you know how many people drown in pools every year? I don't either but believe me, the number of casualties is much bigger as in boxing.

    On topic again.
    Using these sad recent events in boxing to "defend" your man Floyd's actions is just reaching.
    Most here appreciate his skillset, but also are in their full right to call it boring and not watch his fights.
    On the matter of avoiding the biggest challenges because "health comes first", then you can't and shouldn't call yourself "World Champion" and certainly not "better as Ray Robinson" because you clearly opt not to take the risks necessary to validate that claim.

    Like said, it's extremely sad but it has always been a part of boxing and of other sports where you have to take risks with your health to win.
     
  6. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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  7. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't think he was defending anyone and he made some good points, we have lost a few pro boxers this year respect the boxers they put there health on the line.
     
  8. Lartize

    Lartize Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, your wrong.. but not because I think fighters should go to war, but because it is their lively hoods.

    I agree with a vast amount of what you are saying.. about reasons why one fighter should take a fight.. or why they shouldn't, but I can't condone making someone be poor for the rest of their lives... just because of an early stoppage and it ruining their careers.

    So.. no.. I think a fighter needs to be a grown man, and make his own decisions based on his own priorities. If it is money.. then he will walk a different path then someone looking to make a legacy.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I were a boxer or the father of one, I'd agree 100%. But I'm a humble fan and I'm selfish. I want value for my money and if you want my money, there is a price to be paid...entertain me.
     
  10. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    It is absolutely true that health should come first, but I do think there was an element of Floyd defending there (he basically says so in the second sentence)- the problem with this is that not every fighter can be a Floyd or a Rigo or an Andre Ward - these guys are where they are because they are exceptional.

    Do we deny boxers who don't share that level of skill the right to earn a living? Some guys only route to success can be grit, endurance or power...sometimes these and other intangibles are enough to win - of course, no fighter wants to get hurt more than absolutely necessary, but balanced against this is the need to earn the best living possible for themselves and their families.

    I do absolutely agree though that calling a fighter a coward or quitter or somesuch for deciding not to continue (in order to preserve their health) is both naive and spiteful. No fighter should be expected to continue if they feel their health is at risk and to expect otherwise is simply barbaric.
     
  11. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only reason I'm on this subject is a lot of posters not all ,show disrespect to boxers anybody that steps in the ring should have your respect this sport is no joke.
     
  12. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one has to like what I posted. It's just something that should be said .
     
  13. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You sound like a ****ing slave owner :lol::lol:
     
  14. Imperial1

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    End thread !
     
  15. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Floyd's irrational fear of Pacquiao bewilders me... Definitely triggered after Cotto 2009.