The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please answer our questions

    1) Why has TR/Pac not made a attempt to call GB/CBS to make the fight happen?

    2)If floyd is scared, then why is he the only one who signed the first contract? He signed it Pac did not.

    3) Why did pacquiao refuse OSDT to make the first fight?

    4)What proof do you have (actual facts) that Pac & TR are trying to make the fight?

    5) Floyd said a year ago when his deal with CBS was announced that he will be fighting the next couple of years only on may & september, Why is it that Bob & Pac already announced there fighting in April.

    6) Why does Bob Arum not answer CBS/GB calls?

    7) Why did pac refuse the $40mil deal or why did he not call back & see if something else can be reached. Fact is Floyd personally called pac & offerd 40 million to fight. Floyd him self called pac & was hung up on. Why should floyd have to chase him when he made last attempt & was hung up on.


    Yes, Yes! I do expect the typical ******* response "Floyd is scared" "your a *****" "Floyd is ducking & catchweight 101"

    But if you can please actually copy & answer these questions with actual facts.

    What i listed are questions based on facts. There not disrespecting pac in any way, but you guys are insisting that Floyd is scared then please persuade me to believe you by actually answering these questions.

    These questions are directed towards any *******.
     
  2. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think too many people factor in how bad the Top Rank- GBP war is let alone the Mayweather- Top Rank war.

    Can anyone remember a fight Floyd had since leaving Top Rank where he took on a Top Rank fighter?? I don't think it has anything to do with him being "afraid" of anyone from that stable, he just doesn't want to do business with Bob Arum and he has his own reasons for that.

    Now if Manny was a GBP fighter and Floyd still hadn't fought him, than maybe you can form an argument that Floyd is avoiding him. But Floyd hasn't taken on Bradley, Pacman or any other Top Rank fighter and that's mainly due to the resentment he still holds with his former promotional company.

    Marquez wouldn't have been able to fight Floyd if he was a Top Rank fighter at the time, but Marquez was a GBP guy/FA when that fight was made.

    Anyway, GoldenBoy has a better stable and Floyd has taken on only the top level fighters from their stable.

    This idea that he's ducking a guy he would clearly be favored over is just silly.
     
  3. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    idiot. pac is a southpaw who fights 99pct of orthodox.

    where is floyd's jab against southpaws?

    pac's footwork and bodypunching carried him just fine up to his 8th division.

    floyd wouldnt even fight canelo at 154 limit in his 5th div.

    do i need to write them in caps lock?
     
  4. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As much as I enjoy Bert Sugar (RIP,) he doesn't know what's going on in the negotiation tables. he's just clearly making educated guesses/assumptions as to why the fight hasn't been made.

    i kind of wish Floyd would just fight this guy already and beat him to a bloody pulp so that a new thread isn't made about Floyd being scared every 15 minutes. it's funny how a bunch of keyboard warriors are calling the P4P champion "afraid." Just too funny.
     
  5. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    context my friend.

    there is just too many people made fun of floyd being scared of pac, even in the mainstream media.

    i mean if he thinks it is an easy fight, which i think is not and pac will beat him, he should have fought himn already.

    i mean what else do you want? theres lot of money to be made. it is going to shut up a lot of his critics. he gets all the credit he can get. shuts down arum's cash cow.

    what difference does it make if he gets 80kk or 100kk. people wouldnt be able to tell nor would they care that you have 100kk instead of 80.

    people wouldnt be praising him getting 100kk + in the fight. they would be praising him if he beat pacquiao, unless he thinks he cant, so he has to make sure he gets all he can get.
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're forgetting the promotional side to this all. I should've prefaced my statement by saying I'm actually a fan of both fighters, but if you know anything about Floyd's career, you should know he hasn't done any business with Bob Arum since he left Top Rank. Plain and simple. He just doesn't like doing business with them at all.

    Now maybe if GBP and Top Rank were on amicable terms, the fight could potentially happen. But since they're at war as well, and GBP co-promotes all of FLoyd's fights since the DLH fight in 2007, it's seems pretty clear to me why this fight hasn't been made:

    FLOYD DOESN'T LIKE TO DO BUSINESS WITH TOP RANK. HE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT ANYMORE MONEY IN BOB ARUM'S POCKET, PERIOD.

    I don't know what's so hard to understand about that. This is the worst time in boxing as far as the 2 largest promotional companies not working with each other. Combine that with Floyd's resentment of Bob Arum who he felt didn't do a good job furthering his career and having him segue into a PPV star, and you should easily know why things are the way they are.
     
  7. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he wouldnt. He wouldnt enter negotiations for Dlh vs Floyd, so what makes you think he'd make Floyd vs Pac?
     
  8. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where's that thread you made listing all of Arum's excuses a while back? It needs to be bumped.
     
  9. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    ...or his team for the fight with FMJ not being made?

    Someone who wants something made doesn't have a plethora of excuses like Pac...naming all the excuses from Pac and his team put a good perspective of who's avoiding who....Here's a quick list off the top of my head as to why they won't fight Floyd, it's amazing...and hilarious.

    These are excuses Pac, Arum, Roach and *******s have come up with as to why Pacquiao can't fight Mayweather on May 5th or ever.

    1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
    2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
    3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
    4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
    **(FMJ sentence pushed)**
    5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
    6. Need time to build large stadium
    7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
    8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
    9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
    10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
    11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
    12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
    13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
    14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
    15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
    16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
    17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
    18. Blood testing weakens Pac
    19. Pac is afraid of needles
    20. Floyd is too big
    21. Need more time to promote fight.
    22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
    23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
    24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
    25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
    26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
    27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
    28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
    29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
    30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
    31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
    32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
    33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
    34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
    35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
    36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.

    Just off the top of my head...
     
  10. wylan911

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    Great Post
     
  11. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    should include pac head got bigger:hi:
     
  12. hofbrau

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    1) Why has TR/Pac not made a attempt to call GB/CBS to make the fight happen?

    Ans. Whether TR/pac makes some call to GB/CBS or not, it doesnt help. The final decision maker will be up to Floyd if he really wants it or not(been 3+ yrs passed).

    2)If floyd is scared, then why is he the only one who signed the first contract? He signed it Pac did not.

    Ans. There is no such contract signed by Floyd(got proof? show us)

    3) Why did pacquiao refuse OSDT to make the first fight?

    Ans. Floyd who?:lol: why would someone dictate pac? There's a proper authority who does that(vada, usada) Even if he takes OSDT, how many endless roadblocks followed after that(cutoffs, ppv share, Arum not involved, etc) No end.

    4)What proof do you have (actual facts) that Pac & TR are trying to make the fight?

    Ans. To tell you the truth, Arum and pac had been trying to negotiate since from the start but Floyd is the problem, he's not making any serious negotiation with TR he keeps on running, avoiding pac by all means. He needs to man up real(no flipflopping).

    5) Floyd said a year ago when his deal with CBS was announced that he will be fighting the next couple of years only on may & september, Why is it that Bob & Pac already announced there fighting in April.

    Ans. They have to for their schedule purposes. Anyway there's still 4 months to go if Floyd will change, adjust or announce on the media that he's willing to fight pac in may or sept. if that what he wants.

    6) Why does Bob Arum not answer CBS/GB calls?

    Ans. No sense, the road will get longer or ends up nothing, its rather best if Floyd will speak up since he's the boss.

    7) Why did pac refuse the $40mil deal or why did he not call back & see if something else can be reached. Fact is Floyd personally called pac & offerd 40 million to fight. Floyd him self called pac & was hung up on. Why should floyd have to chase him when he made last attempt & was hung up on.

    2 ?s here
    a) Why did pac refuse the $40mil deal or why did he not call back & see if something else can be reached.

    Ans. Everybody and pac knows he didnt need to call back because that offer was a cheap lowball. Floyd got the rest of everything:lol:(no way jose')

    b) Fact is Floyd personally called pac & offerd 40 million to fight. Floyd him self called pac & was hung up on. Why should floyd have to chase him when he made last attempt & was hung up on.

    Ans.
    b) The best or proper way to make offer is if its done personally(eye2eye) not by phone or other related media(fb, twitter). Actually he can setup a meeting to be attended by both parties. They can discuss and talk as long as they want.
     
  13. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal Truth.

    The *****s are delusional dumbasses. Where has Mayweather shown ONE sign recently that he wants the fight? How can you even negotiate with someone who clearly doesn't want it when it takes two to tango? "Pac who?" sound like someone who wants it to you? Get that bull**** out of here.
     
  14. JASPER

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    DUMBASS TARDS CANNOT BUY A CLUE . . . THEIR ONLY ARGUMENT IS THAT ARUM WILL NOT ANSWER CALLS OR MAKE A CALL BECAUSE FLOYD WILL SAY NO . . . STUPID FUKERS:lol:
    MORE ******ATION, THOUSANDS OF DEALS GET DONE OVER THE PHONE AND OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION EACH DAY. IF PAC DID NOT LIKE BEING CALLED WHY DID HE NOT SUGGEST LETS MET FACE TO FACE?
     
  15. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Awww the little ******* is still fighting for his man....:rofl. Dude give it up. If Pac wanted the fight he would of never turned it down the first time.
     
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