Hatton v Paulie and Broner v Paulie . . . . . . . .

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  1. BlackBrenny

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    I think other than his jab and judge of distance (some thing Hatton LEGITIMATELY defused thanks to his timing) that is his best attribute
     
  2. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton's legacy has been impaired by his wrecking at the hand of Pacman — but that acknowledged problem aside he was actually a great fighter.

    He was undefeated in 10 years and beat Tszyu.
     
  3. mick557

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    :deal:good
     
  4. MannySteward

    MannySteward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is stupid. Malignaggi has always struggled when he faces a good fighter with foot speed. Hatton is able to cover ground very quickly with his foot speed. Therefore Paulie couldn't box at range like he likes to. You saw the same thing in the Amir Khan fight. Khan's quick feet nullified a lot of what Paulie does.

    Paulies best performances: Judah, Cotto, Broner, Senchenko, Ndou - all fighters with slow foot speed.

    Put Paulie in with anyone who has slow feet and you will see him be competitive. That is why the Danny Garcia fight is actually kind of appealing to me.
     
  5. BlackBrenny

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    I thought it was downright absurd that some people thought the current Judah might beat Malignaggi, current Judah is MADE for current Malignaggi
     
  6. big_AL

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    well he'd have more power to earn respect first off, not to mention he'd be more capable of timing khan ala garcia and we know what happened there. overall his mindset would drastically change. the current paulie with power would be quite formiddable indeed- a smart, quick boxer with a good workrate, a solid chin and ko power. How is that not p4p?
     
  7. Gerushio

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    ricky was an underrated badass for sure
     
  8. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think the 2 ideas are mutually exclusive. It's likely Hatton at any point beats Malignaggi, but that WAS Malignaggi's worst stretch, which was during his tenure with McGirt.

    It's clear Malignaggi has reclaimed his career.

    As for the p4p stuff. I think the thought process is like this.... He has quick hands and feet, he's tough and he's got good ring IQ. But zero power. If he had, he may have been able to make some of the guys who simply walked in take pause and allow him to work some magic. It's all supposition as if he had that power, he may not have cultivated the other skills that have taken him to where he is now.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    He moved up from 135 to 147 to fight him and a styles thing.
     
  10. BlackBrenny

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    So Paulie with power vs Khan = the Garcia result? Doubt it pal. And in fact, it was Pauls faulty hands that gave him his successful mindset in the firstplace, Paulie with power would have been slugging with the Juan Diaz' of this world
     
  11. BlackBrenny

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    Your last sentence sums it up pal, nicely said, I think it was that lack of power than made him the fighter he is today

    I still think Malignaggi scapegoated McGirt though, he should have taken responsibility for his own losses
     
  12. Hulkamania

    Hulkamania What ya gonna do!!! Full Member

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    The Paulie of today is not prime Paulie....

    Think about the fact that Cotto put on the beating of his life on Paulie, that was a prime Paulie... To think that Zab or Broner today struggle with Paulie is a sad thing.
     
  13. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good Hatton is a legend
     
  14. big_AL

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    no i said he'd be more capable of doing it. And i'm sure by the time his hands took precedence he had already gained some idea of the fighter he was going to be, i doubt he was born with his hands in casts. Not to mention he idolised guys like mayweather and ali growing up and throughout his career has tried to incorporate their styles into his own so those influences would have still been there had he had power or not. And paulie with power would have ko'd diaz is the correct version of your last sentence.
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Already good posts on the subject but I would also point out that Hatton has faster foot speed in my opinion, which would allow him to get inside on Paulie easier than Broner. Broner tends to be flat footed, and while he does stalk his opponents, I think you know what I mean in regard to the comparison with Hatton.

    Essentially, Hatton's foot speed and style allowed him to place more consistent pressure on Malignaggi than Broner did.