Broner exposed

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  1. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    My hat goes off to those of you who predicted Maidana would win this fight. I just didn't see it. I thought Maidana would not be able to handle the speed of Broner.

    What was revealed, however, was Broner slaps a lot. Yes, he can turn it over well at times but a lot of his shoe shine combinations are slaps, with little power behind them. If there had been he may have been able to take Maidana out late.

    Just curious, who did predict Maidana would win and why? What did you see that others didn't?
     
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  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    wow. a guy who is in his 4th weight division in 18 months "exposed".
    how about he lost....he will be back
     
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  3. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    You're right, he is more stationary than I realized. I guess to his credit, he will stand in there and exchange. That proved to be fatal against a puncher like Maidana, especially early. He would have been much smarter to have engaged later.
     
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  4. k mags

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    Maidana is a mix of pure brawler and (the longer he's with Garcia the better this gets) technical fighter. I didn't think he'd bring as much of his technical game to this fight, and didn't think Broner would know WHAT hit him if he got tagged with pure Maidana power. Maidana delivered and got the much deserved decision.
     
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  5. JacK Rauber

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    From my perspective, he was exposed. I thought a fighter like Maidana had only a slugger's chance against Broner, meaning very little. I was wrong. Broner took risks well beyond what was necessary. Why? I think it was ego driven. He wanted to prove to everyone he could bang with a banger.

    This is where smarter, more experienced fighters would have engaged once Maidana had blown off the adrenalin.

    However, you would think Broner would learn from this experience and come back better. The problem is someone like a Provodnikov now sees wounded, vulnerable prey rather than a fighter with an impregnable arsenal. Everyone now fights with more confidence against Broner.
     
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  6. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No footwork, punch power is average, easy to hit and his work rate is awful.

    There is nothing to suggest he will ever be an elite fighter.
     
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  7. Barry Smith

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    He was exposed before this fight, Ponce De Leon clearly beat him. Broner should not be fighting at 147 either.
     
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  8. JacK Rauber

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    I have never thought of Maidana as a technically sound fighter. In fact, I view it as his primary flaw. He has unorthodox power, throwing punches at all angles.
     
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  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    There were only a few of us here that knew Maidana would punch AB like never before in his career:bbb

    Too many people refused to give Maidana credit for his power and were just stuck on his lack of technical skills in the past:patsch

    Point I kept driving home was Broner had never been hit by a true 147 monster like The Little Bulldog:twisted:

    Broner was embarrassed and frustrated after feeling the pain and going down early as I predicted.

    Maidana is a long way from the likes of Floyd but he is and always will be a dangerous fighter for anybody. Khan skated by a sloppy Maidana and never wanted any more from the kid. People recall Maidana going down against Khan but always fail to recall Maidana got up and went to WAR. KHAN could not finish a half broken Maidana.:!:

    The ref last night was ******ed and allowing AB to fight dirty but Maidana stayed strong.

    AB will be back and he will be just as loud and proud....give him time.

    :smoke
     
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  10. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Look we have an informed fan:good

    :smoke
     
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  11. k mags

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    You are absolutely right, he has never been a technical fighter but Garcia has improved his whole game: head movement, offense and defense. Their two+ years together have help Maidana become more well rounded. He still has a ways to go, but I think in his next few fights he'll start showing a better balance.
     
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  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Prior to training under R Garcia he lacked technical skills but as you can see that is changing and he is SOLVING PROBLEMS:nut:rofl:good

    :smoke
     
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  13. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    We need you on here more Kmags....some people don't get it but it is clear you see the right stuff:good:hey

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  14. JacK Rauber

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    What is interesting about what you and bustajay say is I was of the opinion that no fighter could really improve their defensive skills sufficiently once they had gotten to national prominence. I viewed a poor defensive fighter as one who would always be marginal. I have to revise that opinion after watching what some trainers are doing. Maidana and Provodnikov are two examples of fighters who have improved immensely after hooking up with knowledgeable trainers.
     
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  15. nervousxtian

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    Exposed?

    ****ing **** man, you are what's wrong with this sport.

    Breaking fights down like this is disrespectful to fighters. Why can't we enjoy fights for what they are, and why do we feel that we have to tear down every fighter who loses, and build up every fighter that wins.

    It's a horrible trend that's allowed MMA to take over.

    Boxing fans are their own worst enemy.
     
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