Marciano v Bowe

McVey you really are Sadomastic toward's the Rock lol. First Liston, now Bowe, what's next Marciano vs Vitali Klitschko lol. Maybe we should arm the rock with a sling shot and rename him David Marciano lol.
I for one do give him a chance against Liston if he can survive early because his suzie Q could find perfect leverage against Sonny but it is a tall order. Bowe and Klitschko's are asking too much for the Rock to chew off he would have to jump to hit their chins. Holyfield looked smallish against Bowe and he's 4 inches taller than Rocky I hate picking against Marciano but physical limits of that magnitude are tough to overlook. Especially against "skilled" big men not lumbering giant stiffs.

 

-No, I said despite having a bit of a hunchback he doesn't look so small in the "Behind the Scenes" photo where you can see him and Ali's feet in the same frame. I would say the massive weight gain and years of stress on his spine certainly gave him some shitty posture.

-Why so sarcastic? Have I been rude to you?

-I stressed that Vingo was only brought up as an example of Marciano finding the chin of a 6'4" man who stayed in his range, as Bowe would.

-Bowe had a fine jab..when he could be bothered to use it.

-In the 10th, against an exhausted Holyfield, who on this particular time was walking straight up inside with no movement.

-Well, I wasn't insulting his build. He was slender at 205 but cut like a body builder. It's not just about upperbody mass too, even at his most buff in the mid 90s Holyfield always had a lean waist and pretty skinny long legs, just his body type. Marciano had stocky legs and even when cut, looked broad and bulky. I woudln't get hung up on this battle of semantics.

-Well, Rocky is doing a strange shimmy in that one, but Ali only 4 inches at the most. Pretty obvious now the "glove touch" picture with Ali looking 10 inches taller was exaggerated. Ali was only a smudge taller than Louis, and Frazier and Rocky were of comparable height.

-And I stress Bowe's height advantage is worthless as he rarely fought tall, he would no doubt lean in and brawl with Marciano as he did with Evander.

 

McVey seems to have an issue with the successful white heavies.

If Rocky was named John Smith from the UK, behaved badly outside the ring, and liked liberal politics I have a hunch McVey would ave a man crush on him.

 

He didn't have to jump to hit the 6'4" Vingo. Bowe didn't fight tall like the Klitschkos or Lewis, he leaned inside and brawled openly, only sporadically using his reach or height to trouble Evander. He was very hittable, even to someone as short as Rocky. Bowe didn't even use his weight to lean on Holyfield in the clinches, he stood upright and got backed up pretty easily.

As for the 4 inches taller claim. Maybe if you take Rocky's lowest listing and Vander's highest. Holyfield has been listed 6'1"-6'2.5", Marciano 5'11"-5'11.5". I think in this case, their lowest listing seems to be the most accurate and most cited.

 

-No, I've already explained multiple times why I brought up Vingo.

-Holyfield is most commonly pegged at 6'1".

 

I have the same measurements as Mcvey for Rocky and Evander. People tend to fail to realize sometimes how difficult it is to defeat really big skilled heavyweights. Look at Holyfield the greatest cruiser weight ever but if you subtract his cruiser weight totals from his overall record he is around 26-11 as a heavy. Many are past his prime but even still he is only 1-4 against Bowe and Lewis correctly scoring the draw. Evander had just as much heart and chin as rocky if a shade less power and stamina. It's difficult to beat the big boys.

 

-He is not irrelevant if people are claiming it is physically impossible for Maricano to land a punch on Bowe.

-Holyfield's official height listings are some of the most sporadic of all time, but he is most commonly pegged at 6'1".

-Bowe was no doubt a legit 6'5"

 

I was being a little sarcastic when I said Rock would have to jump to connect on Bowe or the K2 brothers. Was just emphasizing the difficulty of his task. I have no doubt he could land here and there.

 

-What does age have to do with it? If you have back injuries or get fat, spine and posture problems occur. I have a 22 year old cousin with a hunchback.

-Evander was 205 in the first Bowe fight.

-This is just recycling the same argument from earlier in the thread.

Antonio Tarver who is a 6'2" bean pole at LHW and CW has been listed for some time with 29.5 inch thighs! You really think his legs are the equal of the human tree trunk,Tua?

http://www.**************/news.php?news_id=1537&y=2011&m=07

Tarver: 29.5!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/boxing/2000/lewis_tua/taleofthetape/

Tua: 30!


Time to put this "Measurement" argument to bed, McVey.