Heavyweight rating in each size class Big,Med,Small-top 10

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Big Heavyweights from 6"4 or over 230

    such as Lennox Lewis, Vlad K,Vitali K, Bowe,Valuev,Primo,Jess,Buddy Baer (rate them alone, your top 10



    Medium from over 6" to 210 to 230 such as Ali, Foreman ( rate them alone)



    Small around 6ft & under or under 210     lbs

    such as Langford,Marciano,Frazier,Dempsey (rate them alone)


    so you will have 3 top 10's in the heavyweight division
     
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  2. McGrain

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    This is interesting Bummy.

    BIG
    01 - Lennox Lewis
    02 - Wladimir Klitschko
    03 - Vitali Klitschko
    04 - Riddick Bowe
    05 - Ernie Terrell
    06 - Primo Carnera
    07 - Fred Fulton
    08 - Hasim Rahman
    09 - James "Buster" Douglas
    10 - Oliver McCall

    Hmmm.


    Medium

    01 - Muhammad Ali
    02 - Joe Louis
    03 - Larry Holmes
    04 - Evander Holyfield
    05 - George Foreman
    06 - Sonny Liston
    07 - Jack Johnson
    08 - Jim Jeffries
    09 - Harry Wills
    10 - Ken Norton


    Small

    01 - Rocky Marciano
    02 - Joe Frazier
    03 - Mike Tyson
    04 - Jack Demspey
    05 - Sam Langford
    06 - Floyd Patterson
    07 - Ezzard Charles
    08 - James J Corbett
    09 - Jersey Joe Walcott
    10 - Peter Jackson
     
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  3. Bummy Davis

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    Nice Job, very close to mine although you added a few that I forgot such as Terrell & Fulton in the Big section
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Is Tua overweight at 230? Ray Mercer?
     
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  5. Bummy Davis

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    It depends on where you feel they were at their best weight if you had skin in the game such as a manager or an investor what weight do you think they were best
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Mercer arguably in for McCall, he's either side of that number really.
     
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  7. Bummy Davis

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    fair enough
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Don't know why this hasn't been done before.
    1.Lewis
    2. Bowe
    3.W Klitschko
    4. V Klitschko
    5. Douglas
    6. Fulton
    7.B Baer
    8.Terrell
    9.Willard
    10 Carnera

    1.Ali
    2. Johnson
    3. Louis
    4.Holmes
    5.Liston
    6.Foreman
    7.Holyfield
    8.Jackson
    9.Jeffries
    10.Wills


    1.Dempsey
    2.Marciano
    3.Frazier
    4.Tyson
    5.Langford
    6.Fitzsimmons
    7. Tunney
    8.Schmeling
    9.Charles
    10.Walcott
     
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  9. mcvey

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    [quote=Bummy Davis;15892358]Nice Job, very close to mine although you added a few that I forgot such as Terrell & Fulton in the Big section[/quote]
    He made sure Jeffries got mentioned .x 2!
     
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  10. Bummy Davis

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    Interesting Peter Jackson and I see you got Buddy Baer in there & Fitz made the grade...good stuff
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    You listed Jeffries as both medium and small!

    I would not call Tyson or Jeffries small using the bench mark of around 6ft & under or under 210 lbs.

    If you move Tyson and Jeffries into the medium area it means there hasn't been a small heavyweight champion since the early 1970's
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Jeffries belongs in medium.

    Tyson is under 6/0 and qualifies as small by the criteria of the thread...

    ...Jackson should be in small too, as he's under 200lbs. He makes it onto my list @ 10.
     
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  13. Mendoza

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    I see. I do find it odd that Tyson's prime weight is greater than most of the guys in your medium class. As such he's hard to peg under the given rules.

    I think Tyson is best described as compact and should be in the medium division. Outside of height and reach his tale of the tape is rather large in some areas.

    I would break it down this way with a career average prime weight

    Sub 210 pounds = small
    210-225 pounds = medium
    226 + pounds = large


    My large with my rules would be

    Lewis
    Vitali
    Wlad
    Bowe
    Ibeabuchi
    Douglas
    Tua
    Sanders
    McCall
    Tucker
     
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  14. McGrain

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    That's a "how good" list I guess, because on any other kind of list Ibeabuchi is a "no".

    Sanders is an outside bet, too.
     
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  15. Mendoza

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    Ike was a beast, defeating Tua, and Bryd at their best. The Byrd KO is right up there with the best I have seen.

    I would bet Sanders over other large heavies like Carnera, or Willard, and his best win rates high on the large list and was done with convincing results.
     
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