Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

We know your fooling yourself, nothing wrong with that, it helps to stay loyal, even if the cause is not for the truth.


I can't blame you fully, wlad could of done more, he should dominat in an more insane way, but chose to be the greatest by underachieving, no doubt to give guys like you that little stronghold on yourself made lies (ali, Tyson, lewis ect)...


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Here's my analysis.
The over use of smileys, the intentional bad grammar and typos and the clearly wrong opinion all point to the fact that this guy is a troll.
So now that we have established that this guy is a troll, can we please just assume that anybody on this site that says Wlad would beat Ali is one too?
I ran into a troll so easily, that must mean it's swarming with them.

Therefore, let's all just ignore anybody that says that Wlad would beat Ali.
Sure, there are people in the world that think Wlad would beat Ali, but they don't know or care enough about boxing to join a boxing forum.
Don't feed the trolls

 

I respect Wlad for his longevity and dedication, but H2H just doesn't add up. Ali would kill the poor soul.

 

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Sad day, they should have a better way of weeding out these trolls, they don't understand who everybody has a crush on. If they gave me the chance to say, who stays an goes, it would be a easy question I place to soon to be member of ESB, is "Ali the greatest human being that ever lived", I mean did he not walk on water against cooper, of course not counting that lunging hook (wlad does not need to lunge) caught ali, an illegal act saved him from going out an getting kO'd in next round...
But after getting that EXTRA TIME to get his legs back he won the fight.


Honestly, I think you might not have to go far into yourself consciousness, something in your grammar tells me it's right at the top, that wlad is "the greatest". Let's be honest, cooper (RIP) wouldn't not hang in with anybody in the top ten today, let alone need them to slice there gloves to make it threw a round....:yep:yep:yep:yep:yep:yep

ATG

 

Ali stops him

 

Wlad never had the skills, intestinal fortitude or balls to beat a guy like Ali.

 

Unfortunately, nearly 16% of posters think he not only beats Ali, but knocks him out. The guy who could not knock out the static Ross Purrity despite hitting him with everything he had, is knocking out Ali.

 

Those 16% don't really think that, they're just trolling

 

Ali needed smelling salts to get up against 170lb Cooper. If Wald landed that punch Ali would be leaving the ring on the stretcher.

 

You don't need a time machine, just like you don't need a time machine to see that Gretzky is head and shoulders better than anyone in the NHL right now, and Jordan was voted by SI as the best athlete of all time. Yes we make progress but sometimes an unbelievable athlete comes along that raises the bar so high that others can't follow. SRR was such an athlete and so was Ali. In fact they slowed down both their jabs and discovered that Ali's was in fact faster than SRR. So time isn't the issue here, skill and athleticism and heart are. And in these areas Ali excels, and time whether it's 20,40, or 100 isn't going to change how much heart someone has. Ali took punishment from Foreman and Frazier that would have dropped 99.9% of the people those punches landed on. Hell even Frazier said he hit Ali hard enough to drop a concrete wall, and still Ali never folded, and I bet Foreman hit him even harder.

 

an ali loaded on steroids, human growth hormone and epo would have a good shot.

 

Actually this is where your 100% wrong. Why? because us older guys actually watched them both fight, not just one of the two. I'm not a huge Ali fan I think someone like Lewis would likely beat him, but Wlad, I'm far less sure about that. The last fight I saw Wlad in was an utter disgrace and even trying to defend that bull **** is a waste of time. As for size, you're a ****ing idiot. Ali was 6'3, close to 6'4 he wasn't Frazier like in size by any means, and if you know ANYTHING about boxing you know that 90% of it is mental and 10% is physical. Who do you think has the mental edge, the guy who had wars with Foreman, Frazier and Norton (he fought with a broken jaw for FS) or Wlad? Who's faster? hand and feet? The only advantage Wlad has over Ali is power, and unfortunately Ali provided that you could hit him with a truck and he isn't going down. Can't say the same about Wlad now can we??

You my friend need to grow up and learn regardless of how you think the fight would unfold. Wlad could win, but if I were betting $$ and could make the odds it would be 65-35% Ali.

 

You know Bremen you're so full of **** you must smell to high heaven. I'm not a huge Ali fan but nobody, and I mean nobody in all of boxing took more punches and stayed on their feet more then Ali did and I've been watching boxing for over 40 years. Foreman wailed on his for 6-7 rounds, Frazier said he hit him with shots that would knock a concrete wall down. Norton busted his jaw and he still finished the fight. Shavers is described as the hardest puncher in history by some. Give the man his dues regardless of who you think would win.

 

You want to go down the empirical evidence path, have at it and let's see how this unfolds.

 

funny you should say that when Ali was just voted the 2nd most athletic man in history just behind Jordan in the recent SI magazine.

You're really a dumb ass.

Ali was 6'3 almost 6'4 dumb ass and was far more mentally superior to either Klitshcko. It's not that I live in a time warp, it's that I understand boxing more than you do. A lot more. Boxing like a lot of sports is mostly mental, and in this department Ali excelled. No Brewster BS in his resume. No Sanders wiping him out in 90 sec's either.