David Tua v Ray Mercer

his rapid rise to king of trolls was cemented when he accepted he was about 12 years old by calling someone who was 28 as 'old'

 

congratulations your now officially the biggest Tua ****sucker on this site.

Mercer fought better opposition than Tua.

Tua has never beat a single durable fighter his whole career, hes overated and his beat win is over Moorer a guy with a glass jaw who was way past his best anyway. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it you stupid 12 year old

 

he lacked foot speed but had really decent hand speed and could put his punches together well but if an A+ mercer showed up with his jab pumping he'd give tua hell and with his chin being hard as a rock tua couldn't count on stopping him late

 

all of Tuas stoppage wins were over guys whod already been knocked out numerous times before, Tua never stopped a single durable fighter throughout his whole career

 

:roll:don't come trying to start a ******ed argument with me I never even brought up the class of fighters that tua fought I just said he had good hand speed lack foot speed and could put his punches together

if you don't think this then good for you you've accomplished judging a fighter without ever watching him atsch

 

Asslicker85 is a known simple minded idiot, taking him seriously is a big mistake. I mean we're talking about the same guy who tried to argue that Riddick Bowe "might" have hit harder than David Tua.

 

With both at there best, Mercer by decision.

The best fights Mercer fought, he lost. Being the Lewis and Holyfield fights.

The best fight Tue fought, he lost, to Ibeabuchi. # 2 was the Ruiz fight and he got a hell of a lot of mileage out of that fight.

 

Ruiz and Moorer are durable , what are you one of those guys that is stupid but keeps forgetting it ? Blaming it on the others instead ??

 

Just to be clear, Tua deserved the decision over Ibeabuchi.

 

I thought that too but Ibeabuchi impressed the judges so much because he did something that NOBODY was willing to do and that was to stand right in front of David Tua all night and engage in a closed quarters phone booth battle and albeit he took severe damage in that fight, his very SURVIVAL to the final bell must have been extremely impressing to the judges as he was a MASSIVE underdog going into that fight, the whole world thought he was gonna get knocked out but the bat**** crazy Ibeabuchi didn't care what the world thought and went to war with Tua just for the love it, it was sheer balls and determination on Ike's part. This was a fight where Tua bombed on him all night, I counted nearly 30 MONSTER overhand rights that landed CLEAN to the side of his head and one of those overhand rights was thrown with so much force that the bones in Tua's right elbow splintered and he had to have surgery a weak later to remove those splinters from that elbow. ano wonder Ike started suffering from severe migraine headaches after that fight and eventually he lost it altogether and started complaining of being haunted by demons. You could say Ibeabuchi paid for that win with his sanity.

 

That occurred later on in the fight, mainly from Rounds 9 through 11 but can you blame him? Lol I don't think any other boxer on the planet would have survived all those bombs from Tua.

 

Wow what an interesting detail you pointed out, I agree with you somewhat and to add on to what you said taller fighters are more EFFICIENT at throwing straight punches due to their long reach, they also have an advantage in fist size and fist weight which packs a little extra power onto their punches but I think shorter fighters have a bigger advantage in that they usually possess superior hand speed.

That's crazy because there's a guy on another forum who has sparred with both Foreman and Tua and he admitted that Tua had bigger one punch power and how Tua's punches would turn his headgear all the way around and leave him with migraine headaches afterwords. The same guy said Foreman's punches had a "thumping" feel to them and would wear you down over time by through the sheer volume of his punches as opposed to Tua who did his damage throwing one or two HARD shots.

 

Here's what Ron Lipton, a guy who referee'd a couple of Tua's fights, said about his left hook:


"Trust me on this,

I boxed with Joe Frazier, saw all his fights, mostly ringsisde and I travelled to do so. Saw him in Philly all the time in the gym and we stayed friends for years. Those of you that have my tape saw footage of this.

Anyway I refereed David Tua twice, against Dan Morgan and Rick Hunnicut. Frazier's hook was applied in relentless fashion in combos and in single blasts and levelled the best and wore down the best and it was just stupendous. One of the best of all time.

David Tua's left hook in one shot was the most heavy punch in the ring a human being could throw. It does not land cleanly much of the time. When it lands cleanly on the chin, people go unconscious. It is a frightening heavy dangerous knockout shot. The way he gets his awesome shoulder structure and tree trunk legs into it is just beyond belief when it lands. The sound of it on the head says it all. He almost killed both of the guys I mentioned and I had to use all my speed to get there to prevent just one more punch."

 

is that it, you can name 2 names? And by the way Moorer was never durable, he was always known to have a suspect chin

if anyones stupid its your mum for cursing the earth with someone with your low level iq

 

is that it, you can name 2 names? And by the way Moorer was never durable, he was always known to have a suspect chin

if anyones stupid its your mum for cursing the earth with someone with your low level iq