The Popular Perception and Legacy of David Tua

True, thats why he went mental at a meeting with HBO executives and slammed a knife into the table, demanding they call him 'President'. Thats dedication for ya

 

Tua is severely overrated, yet hes constantly mentioned in the same breath as Mike Tyson, which is boxing blasphemy.

Heres a comparison between genuine greatness and a fat fraud
All this Tua had a bigger punch than Tyson is complete bollocks

Who did Tua actually beat that was durable? Nobody. Moorer was always glass jawed and Ruiz admittedly got caught cold, so i give Tua that.

Tua was the Deontay Wilder of the 90s, yes he knocked out lots of cab drivers and 3rd tier heavys like Izon, however unlike Wilder (who hasnt stepped up yet), whenever Tua stepped up he was beat.

Tyson beat and destroyed DURABLE heavyweights.

Tua would lose to a lot of the guys from the 80's because most of them were pretty good boxers.

If Mike Tyson at his best with his rapid fire combinations and Nucelear powered fists couldnt put guys like Tucker away, David plod plod Tua aint.

Tua is one dimensial, whereas Tyson could slug it out, he could also outbox guys.

Tony Tubbs was doing well against Tyson until he started trading with him, Tubbs according to some, outboxed Bowe. And Tucker and Holmes could comfortably outbox Tua.
Berbick was experienced enough to handle Tua.
Biggs is question mark because if he boxed Tua like he did against Tyson in the first round (and kept it up) he could beat Tua. But most likely Tua would catch him late.
imagine the Tua of the Barrett fight, vs Lennox Lewis.
Tua Vs Ruddock would be 50/50.
Bruno would outbox Tua until mid to late rounds where Tua probably catches up with him.
Truth Williams was always open for a left hook.
Buster Douglas beats the living **** out of Tua.
Botha would probably outbox Tua until if/when he gets caught.
Golotoa had all the skills in the world, but somewhere in the fight, he would fold.

Its hard to pick a guy like Tua to defeat better boxers from the past, when he failed to do so against guys in his own era.
I also feel Tuas KO and power is ever so slightly overrated. Majority of his Kos are over frigging cab drivers, cleaners and toilet attendants.

Lets look at some of Tuas top Ko's
John Ruiz, i give him this, it was an excellent Ko over a guy who would become 2 time champion and would never be kod again until his final fight (Haye)
David Izon - good KO over a decent fighter, but it took him 12 to do it.
Oleg Maskaev - had already been Kod in one by Mcall of all people, took Tua 11 to do it. Would go on to be kod 5-6 more times, each one quicker than Tua
Rahman - first loss was to Tua, took Tua 10 to pull it off.
Fres Oquendo - Took Tua 9 rounds.
Michael Moorer seems to be the biggest name on the list, he was way past his best when he fought Tua and Tua hd him out of there in first round.

His highlight Kos against his top opponents all came late in the fight and the above mentioned are hardly the murderers row, whereas Tyson was getting alot of these guys out of there and quick.

Mitch Green - Tyson couldnt Ko this guy, Mitch Green boxed on for a further 20 years after facing Tyson, no one ever stopped him.
Smith - stunk the fight out so bad and did his best to hug and hold to make it to the final bell, one of the worst fights ever.
Tillis - Tysons first step up, he was still green and fighting an experienced journeyman whod been in with Biggs, Coetzee, Frazier, Witherspoon, Williams, Page, Thomas, Shavers and Weaver before facing Tyson.
Tucker - the only guy who fought both Lewis/Tyson (apart from Holyfield) and was stopped by neither, he also fought much better versions of both Tyson and Lewis than Holy did. Between them Tyson/Lewis Kod Bruno, Botha, Biggs, Golota and Ruddock.
Berbick - Tyson was the first and only guy to KO Berbick, he boxed on for another 14 years and was never stopped again.
Thomas - Tyson was the first guy to Ko Thomas
Holmes - Tyson was the first and only guy to ever Ko Holmes and Holmes boxed into his 50s
Spinks - Undefeated and Tyson was the first and only guy to KO Spinks.
Biggs - was undefeated and Tyson was the first person to Ko him
Tubbs - Tyson was the first person to Ko Tubbs and he did it in 2 rounds, something Bowe struggled to pull off.
Mathis Jr - fought Bowe, Biggs, Williams. Tyson was the first to stop him
Savarese - Fought Holyfield, Foreman, Izon, Grant, Buster Douglas. Tyson was the only one who stopped him in one round.
Ruddock - has a controversial loss to David Jaco apparently the fight was stopped due to him having an asthma attack, Tyson was the first guy to properly TKO Ruddock.
Etienne - would go on to beat Brewster (who beat you know who), he fought Valuev, Oquendo, Botha, Brock. Tyson was the only one who Kod him in 1rd
Stewart -fought Foreman, Holyfield, Moorer, Maskaev. Tyson was the only one who stopped him in one round.
Bruno - lost to punchers like Witherspoon, Lewis and Smith. Tyson stopped him twice, both times quicker than the rest.
Williams - fought Tillis, Holmes, Ferguson, Weaver, Cooper, Morrison, Berbick, Witherspoon, Bruno. Tyson was the only one to KO him in one round

Tysons Kos were much more impressive against much better opposition. He did it in devastating fashion to a lot of guys whod never been stopped before and some were never stopped again.

Can Tua compare to that? No he simply cant.

 

Who did Tua actually KO for you to put him over the above named?

 

One idiot, 3 alts, SKS1943, Elroy and Entaowed all echoing the exact same thing.

Get this clown out of here

 

I don't know if SKS1943 is an alt, but there is no doubt in my mind that Elroy is Merchant's Ghost. No doubt he was someone else before Merchant's Ghost as well.

The same adoration of the Klitschko's, the same dislike and trashing of Ali ('He could barely box' - yeah, he said that) and the same love for Tua. The fool even argues among his alts to try and throw us off.
I'm pretty sure Elroy will mysteriously vanish one day and another alt will take his place.

Eh Elroy/Merchant's Ghost/alt/alt/alt?

 

And your point is?

 

But the above interview in a Connecticut hotel in 1996 obviously IS " making up stories " if it doesn't suit your agenda, I take it?

I have no opinion one way or another as far as David Tua is concerned, other than he came up woefully short when given the chance at Lewis.

However I find the " Tua had it harder than any other boxer " angle hysterical at best, and moronic at worst.

 

Try reading post #55. Ooooooh I am sorry i missed out the Connecticut hotel, but got the 1996 part right. He was about to fight David Izon and he gave an interview about his life in Samoa, and Auckland.

It rather contradicts your theory about him being forced into boxing, and made to fight grown men as an 8 year old.

Indeed he was something of an all rounder when it came to sport.

 

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Lets get one thing straight.

I'm not interested in a pissing contest with you. I just posted from an interview David Tua gave to Gavin Evans in 1996, in which everything he says in that interview makes your opening post bull****, particularly the part about him being forced to both " box against his will, and having to fight grown men at the age of 8 "

Whether you believe it or not is of no consequence to me in any way, shape, or form.

 

Its self explanatory surely?:huh

 

To you it might be, but then again thats to be expected.

Seeing as I'm the one quoting a Tua interview in which he states totally different facts about his life to those in the opening post, your point seems to be neither here nor there to me.