Floyd Mayweather drops WBC welterweight title as Pacquiao becomes No.1 contender

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  1. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They didnt need to then because there was still a chance of the fight happening, now that its clear it isnt happening they unjustifiably make Pac mandatory. I want to see the fight as well but its clear what the wbc motives are. And its no way in hell pac is taking 25%.

    He called Pac directly, he jumped over Arum an went straight to Pac with the offer a clear indication he wasnt going to be bothered with Bob. Bob pronounced the fight dead with numerous other bogus excuses so floyd called pac directly. Cotto vs Floyd didnt get made because bob wouldnt give floyd the extra 3 mil he wanted for a total of 10mil (absoulute bargin price), magically when cotto left top rank the fight gets signed almost instantly.

    And it was a time period before then that is just like now, this GBP vs Top rank war isnt new and it isnt the first time it took place. Remeber DLH only fought Pac as a second option because floyd didnt take the rematch offer. DLH left Bob along time ago and on bad terms to boot and when they do negotiate its Richard who is involved not DLH. Bob seems to have ruin business relationships with Richard also.

    Agree with you on how big the fight could have been. But Bob never had any intentions of making the fight. He would even bother entering negotiations for DLH-Floyd because he said "i'd be working for such a small percentage". Tells you all you need to know really.
     
  2. Symphenyceo

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    I see you ignore the DLH part also. He left as well. Bob wouldnt even enter negotiations for the DLH-FLoyd fight, Bob said he didnt want to make it because he would be working for a small percentage and couldnt give floyd the 20mil he wanted for the fight( floyd also asked for 1 mil for cotto and hatton and bob ssaid that wasnt there either:-(), floyd went on to make 30mil for the that fight. Instead of staying with bob and not making the biggest fight in boxing history he left.
     
  3. Scar

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    I never said he hasn't ducked him and I believe I made my point clear on who ducked who numerous times in various topics. To make it short, Mayweather's endless demands which started with random testing(a completely new rule he tried to implement for one fight) and ended with "You take $40 million and I'll take all the rest, including 100% of the PPV earnings" made it very clear who was clowning all along.

    Sadly, a lot of fighters will look to take a similar approach in the long run especially after they study Mayweather's success in the sport. However, it will take a fighter to go through some serious opposition early to maintain proper public recognition, preserve the 0 and #1 P4P status before starting to carefully pick opponents at will knowing that the public is already hooked. Might sound easy but it sure as hell isn't.
     
  4. Symphenyceo

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    Thing about that is bob wast willing to give floyd 3 extra mil, thats how petty bob is. We would have got floyd vs Marg, Cotto ad Hatton a while back but in the words of bob "it isnt in the cards":-(
     
  5. TheDarkLord

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    So how much is Arum demanding he make for this fight?

    I cant believe I'm debating this. :lol:
     
  6. Symphenyceo

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    That would only hold weight if floyd fought other top rank guys, he hasnt.

    The he's scared BS is for the kiddies
     
  7. TheDarkLord

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    Jesus christ man Floyd is ducking Manny Pac!!! :lol: Cant you see that? Honestly? Youre not joking are you?
     
  8. Symphenyceo

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    Arum is on record saying he doesnt know where floyd is going to get his guarantee from. But you could go on about ducking and being scared like the rest of the kids do if you want.
     
  9. TheDarkLord

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    How do you know so much about Bob Arums business practices?
     
  10. TheDarkLord

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    Explain it to me, I obviously don't understand. How exactly would floyd lose out financially if he signed to fight Pac?
     
  11. Scar

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    Yet the fight was going to be promoted by both regardless of whether he called him or not. Please don't even bring up that "phone call" nonsense as if it was serious negotiations. He pretty much called the man and told him he's giving him $40 million and taking all the rest(which includes 100% of PPV earnings) to his self.

    I fully agree with the Cotto thing, Arum wasn't going to feed Mayweather someone in his stable when he had other options for them. The hatred between the two is mutual as we all know.

    Still that didn't stop the two from making major fights involving major names in their rosters. DLH his self, the founder of Golden Boy, managed to negotiate and make the fight happen even when Pacquiao demanded more money which almost killed negotiations. Arum didn't have problems dealing with them for many fights.

    Both didn't have any serious intentions to make the fight, yet it was Mayweather with the ridiculous demands over and over which made things far easier for Arum.
     
  12. Symphenyceo

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    Endless demands scar? please name the long list of those demands.

    And dont distort history. Drug testing was there from the beginning ,Roach admits this on camera. The 40 mil thing came last year, both event took place at different times. Something is wrong because the same test that pac rejected is the same one he ends up taking years later. Really no way to justify it. Arum is also in an interview that took place a few month ago as the reason they turned down the test is because "no one knew what anybody was talking about".


    Its perception when it comes to the public, They havent ridiculed pac much and he fought the same guys basically that floyd fought when he was p4p #1 in floyd's absence.
     
  13. Symphenyceo

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    Read/ watch boxing interviews/ articles. Didint know it was that hard unless you are a casual.
     
  14. Scar

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    Mayweather vs Concreto didn't happen for good reasons back then and I'm 100% with Mayweather in this one. Concreto was a nobody back then who ran his mouth exactly as Arum told him to. This is a promotional tactic, when someone in your stable leaves you, use anyone else to cover up for the loss and Arum used Concreto very well. Who in their right mind wanted Mayweather vs Concreto at 147 over Mayweather vs DLH at 154?. Bear in mind Concreto's biggest win at the time was Andrew "Six Heads Zero Chins" Lewis.

    Cotto was too green back then and Hatton openly stated he needs two or three fights to be ready when both were at 140 which prompted Mayweather to move up in pursuit of Judah(the undisputed welterweight champion at the time).
     
  15. Symphenyceo

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    Dont know ask Arum, he felt that he'd "be working for such a small percentage" if he made DLH-Floyd fight. His words not mine.