Floyd Mayweather drops WBC welterweight title as Pacquiao becomes No.1 contender

1) Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's initial demands of a 21 day cut off, then his secondary demands of a 14 day cut off. Why did Mayweather agree to an out of court settlement as soon as Pacquiao's solicitors asked him to publicly release his A & B samples for the Mosely fight? also why does Mayweather have it in his drug testing contract that A & B samples don't have to be released?

2) Why did Mayweather, if he was so confident of winning start demanding these tests when the Pacquiao fight was being demanded. Why didn't he demand that Ricky Hatton, who used to cut about 3 stone in his first two weeks every training camp, take a test?

3) Do you really believe that the Olympic style drug testing Mayweather does means he's clean? Do you really think that no Olympians use performance enhancing drugs?

4) Remember Carl Lewis? When he couldn't beat Ben Johnson he started complaining about him using drugs and according to many Ben Johnson's drugs supplier was bribed by the US team to give him something that would show up in the tests which took away Johnson's gold but then all those years later Lewis failed a test in the twilight of his career after talking so much about cleaning up the sport.

Drugs are a part of elite sport's and I'd bet my hat that Mayweather and Pacquiao have both used plenty of PEDs so don't try to use this as an excuse.

 

You gave a solution that pac could just take the smaller share as if he would do that. He got 50/50 the first time an walked away then said he would take less only to turn down 40 mil. This is the same guy who almost broke down both his fights with dlh and hatton over purse split. Got any more solutions?

 

None of that is true. Mayweather agreed to the contract and Arum took it over to the philippines for manny to sign, only to come back empty handed.

Any articles to back the claim that pac agreed to in negotiations to take less and that he accepted the OSDT?

http://www.albanyherald.com/news/2009/dec/02/arum-flies-to-phillipines-to-make-mayweather/

 

You keep saying he walked away without any evidence.

You gave two sources saying that Bob Arum flew to the Philippines

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Tell me, why do YOU think he walked away?

 

A good reason? So you think bob would take over a contract that he didnt feel was good enough for pac?

If Arum and Mayweather's camp sit down an iron out a contract and then Arum takes pac the contract to sign it, what happened and whose fault is it that it didnt get signed. You claim floyd is scared but when there is proof to show he agreed to the fight its still "he's ducking him" like a child.

He walked because drug testing. Or at least thats what he said to Brian kenny on national television.

 

Scare D. CAT

 

I say walked away because im not a child that thinks fighters are scared of each other. You want evidence? Its in bob coming back empty handed after floyd agreed to everything. Then saying pac has some additional "minor demands" when he got back. Only for those to be agreed to and still...nothing

Floyd wont work with him as a result of many things but he put all that aside and bob still couldnt get it done. He has effectively not wanted to make the 2 biggest fights in boxing history for one reason or another.

 

21 days wasnt the initial demand. OSDT was there from the start and Arum didnt have a problem with it and taking it to the Philippines in a contract. Roach admits they didnt have a problem with ODST on camera.

Any proof of your claims? Or is this more kiddie stuff? We can end the convo right now if so.

Because he felt pac was dirty. Same reason rios asked pac to do it.

That's irrelevant. If you arent dirty take the test.

So because you think alot of athletes use it its ok?

I'm not uses anything as an excuse, Top rank/ Team pac and co. used it as one.

 

Your right he say all of that, but it doesn't change the fact that Arum and Floyd don't do business together and Pac is an Arum fighter. Cotto and Floyd would have never fought if Cotto remained with Top rank. As soon as he left the fight was on. Same rules apply with Pac. All of the above that you mentioned would never had been said if Pac didn't have a dictator dictating his decisions.

 

Because he refuses to fight certain people who may be able to disprove the "Mayweather is the best" notion. It seems to me that he would want to remove all doubt and get it over with. I think Pacquiao will be an albatross hung around the neck of his legacy, otherwise. I'd say he beats Pacquiao; from a betting standpoint he's where my money goes. Just do it, Maywesther, and remove all doubt.

 

Any other boxer would get total **** for vacating his belt from a mandatory widely considered his biggest challenge at the weight. Floyd has the funniest groupies.

 

Was Marquez not at top rank at the time of their fight?

 

Trust me, Mayweather will freeze in there with Pacquiao. He isn't a 100% on beating Pacquiao like his past opponents. He has doubts in his head, otherwise he would have took the fight by now.

I can't back Mayweather to beat Pacquiao. He is the more complete boxer of course. On the night Mayweather will freeze in there. He has been running away forever. He clearly doesn't fancy his chances, therefore Pacquiao has his number. Unless Mayweather is forced into a corner, he will not take the fight.

Bottom line - Pacquiao has the upper hand and I still see this as a 50/50 fight, or maybe give Pacquiao just the edge, based on the words and actions of Mayweather. I honestly believe Mayweather would freeze on the night and the night would get to him. Pacquiao wants it, and Mayweather doesn't.

 

Dont see it, guy hasn't beaten the guys he has beaten by being timid. I think Floyd will come out with something to prove and really try to put an early beatdown on Pacquiao, thus i think it would be a good fight.

 

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