The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

You're a clown.

 

Margo as an opponent is much better and harder a fight than Ortiz and Guerrero
Bradley is better than Canelo

 

LMAO.

all this bs talk about ppv, drug test, network, promoters.

floyd after unretiring: floyd-hatton ppv: ~1kk buys, pac-hatton : 1kk buys. not exactly but similar.

did the fight happen? hell ****ing no. floyd fought a guy WITH NO PPV HISTORY.

it's not about money, never was, never will be.

it's has always been about boxing.

FLOYD HAS NO ANSWER TO PAC'S LEFT STRAIGHT.

tha'ts all:hi:

 

45-0 but 64-8 on Floyd is scared poll

 

you're a ***.

maybe so, BUT he was not seen as a bigger threat at the time. Canelo was the most demanded fight in boxing. no one can deny it. most people thought floyd wouldnt accept the fight. Floyd beat the breaks off of him and now he's seen as overrated. rinse and repeat.

 

Floyd came out with thousands of excuses not to fight pac since 2009. He can't afford to agree to fight him now and run the risk of losing his "0", no sir.

 

...oh i think there's a book coming out "1001 Ducking Excuses" authored by you know who LOL

 

Floyd scared of PAC... LMAO.
Learn business you ****en ROACHES.

Floyd don't want his former promoter profiting a dime off him.
(Get it, Got it? Good)

 

I agree it's the sad thing about boxing.

Canelo was over hyped from the get go, but there was obviously some truth to that i.e. he was young, undefeated and had fought quite a lot, but then again he was relatively untested.

He did well to best Trout who himself beat Cotto. I just think with Canelo he put up a spirited display with May but he was too green for someone who is an ATG like floyd. But I personally believe that fight was rushed due to 1-the low numbers for the Guerrero fight and 2-not sure who may would fight next

Bradley on the other hand is a well disciplined skilful fighter who is badly underrated, had promotional issues and was out for a little bit but has constantly fought as many of the top guys in his division. I remember watching the Witter fight, he beat a champion to be a champion and beat another champion (Alexander) to unify. Obviously there are one or two exceptions to his resume but who hasn't got that?

He has a win against PAC which many rightfully say was a robbery, he put up a gutsy warrior like display against prov, in what people say was a close fight, and he really fought disciplined and focused against another ATG in JMM

What I like about floyd is that with all these younger guys like Guerrero, Canelo, Ortiz he really showed them he hasn't lost it. And many people thought they would be tough for floyd. Personally I think Ortiz could have been a tough match but we know what happned there with ortiz losin the plot, but none of them would have been as dangerous as Margo and non have the skills of Bradley, who IMO is heading towards the status of ATG if he puts a few more fights under his belt with high calibre opponents

In terms of PPV for those fights

Bradley was 700k, Guerrero was 870k, Canelo, marco 1.15, Ortiz 1.25

Again the thing with numbers, I'm just showing at the end of the day floyd just chatting **** at times to make out like manny can't draw, he can. But also the biggest US draw out of the two is Floyd. Without a doubt. But Canelo's stock will rise in the next few years

 

people demanded the 154 canel, keep your facts straight. no one asked for a diluted canelo.

when people said he would duck canelo, they were right. floyd ducked the 154 canelo.

floyd fought a shittier version of a guy with a shitty stamina int he first place.

the result was horrendous. i havent seen a guy that stood in the ring doing nothing, too scared to gas.

edit: and canelo wasnt most demanded compared to pac, not even half as close.

 

lmao at the *****s.

these ***oots argued drug test til they faces were blue, now what?

breakdown mayweather-pac.

 

Pac carried the show on his own on a foreign land with disputes against the Philippines.

Floyd seems to be forgetting that Pac drew more than all of his options now combined.

 

HBO and Showtime Pay per view is only for the US market. Luckily, Pacquiao has a world wide fan base and his fights are on around the globe.

HBO PPV USA
BoxNation UK
Sport 1 Hungary
GMA Ch 7 Philippines
Main Event Australia
Polstat Sport Poland

My guess is that Pacquiao did 2.2 million viewers in the Philippines alone. He got something over half a million PPV subscribers in the US where the fight was barely advertized, though if he'd advertized or gotten a more popular opponent he could have goosed the domestic PPV sales.

Most of the markets respond to local boxers better than foreign boxers, which is why Klitschko does crazy numbers in Germany but doesn't do as well in America. Back in 2007 when Floyd Mayweather fought Ricky Hatton the domestic PPV numbers were under a million but they were at least double that in Britain where Hatton was a star and a major draw. That's right, in their fight Hatton was the draw. Britain usually doesn't do pay per view events but when it does their stars are always British like Froch, Hatton, and Khan now, and their biggest draws of the nineties were Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Steve Collin, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, all Brits. That's why Floyd's biggest paydays come from Mexican opponents, because a large share of the US boxing pay per views are bought by Mexican-Americans.

My thinking is that as popular as Floyd Mayweather is in America, Manny Pacquiao is a bigger star internationally. I'd like to see what Floyd's viewership is in the Philippines or Europe compared to Manny's. Manny and Bob Arum probably make more money from the local tv stations that broadcast Pacquiao's fights abroad than Mayweather does.

If they could crack the Chinese market and get their fights viewed there that would really be something else. There are tv shows in China that get 200 million viewers, and would make Floyd's paltry 2 million pay per views look like nothing. Arum and Pac are very smart getting into that Chinese market. There's an annual spring festival show that gets a billion viewers every year in Asia.

Also, there are a lot of ways to measure a fighter's popularity besides Pay Per Views. Floyd has cracked the top ten boxing record twice for biggest live gate and the rest are held by Tyson, De La Hoya, and one for Manny. But when you look at the actual attendance figures, Floyd fights out of the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas which seats 15,000. He breaks revenue records by charging ridiculous amounts for a seat, but he'll never beat the attendance record held by Julio Cesar Chavez. On Feb 20, 1993 in Mexico City a reported 136,274 spectators filled Estadio Azteca. I don't know that Floyd could fill a stadium that big, though it would be even harder to if he charged the same as he usually does.

My point is that there are several different revenue generating models for the sport of boxing and pay per view isn't the only measure of success. Manny makes millions off of his endorsement deals with Nike and other companies, and no company will touch Floyd what with his conviction for woman beating. There's a lot of layers to this onion and more than one way to skin a cat.

 

I thought pac is on A-side meth thats why the fight aint happening

 

FMJ seems to justify everything on the "It's all about money" angle. It's terribly declasse of him to say that, even should it be true to his thinking, and that's what irritates so many people. He does what the hoi polloi are seen to, crudely flaunting symbols of wealth to show that he's risen above his class, and when he makes statements like these it just adds to the distaste. I really don't know why he carries on such, as it doesn't do him any favors in terms of public perception. Talented and professionally accomplished as the man is, he's made choices that lead to derogatory opinions of him as a person that cast a pall over his boxing merits. I'm unsure if this is the outcome he truly wanted for himself.