Floyd Mayweather drops WBC welterweight title as Pacquiao becomes No.1 contender

No point except... Mayweather>Packy

 

Hahaha! But Floyd won't fight Pac :rofl

 

i can do that too. pac>>>>floyd.

umm, can you breakdown how floyd will win against pac?

 

all this big topic and he hasn't given up the belt..

 

If Floyd was even 1% as confident as his die-hard fans here are then he'd have taken the fight years ago. His cheerleaders are certain it'd be a shutout, no contest, boxing lesson from Floyd giftwrapped for Pac...yet Floyd doesn't believe it, in spite of what words he spews to the cameras that his fans drink down as gospel.

Hell I favor Floyd to win in match if it ever happened, always have, even when Pac was destroying fighters. But that fact that Floyd ducks and runs from Pac even now gives him a HUGE cowardly loss in my books, might not be in the official records, but it's there in my heart. As it is in a lot of boxing fans' hearts.

 

Arum never had any intenton of making the fight, if people just read up on the events they would see that. All it takes is a little research on Arum.

 

Floyd signed the contract but he don't want to fight Pacquiao because of Arum. atsch *****s, pls. explain this.

 

Margo TKO Cotto :rofl

Pac TKO Cotto :rofl

 

Tell Floyd to prove it.

 

^This

 

If he didn't want to work with Arum, he should've just said it in the first place. What happened to the tests? Splits? Draw power?

All it takes is a little common sense.

 

Under no circumstances is it okay to refuse a drug testing in this day in age, if you refuse expect to under constant suspicion and scrutiny. Its really no way to spin it, his personal feeling are irrelevant and the ACTUAL REASON HE GAVE ARE BEYOND ABSURD. The reason you gave is not the same ass to what Pac, Arum or Roach said.

I seen better athletes get worst than what pac received, still no reason to not take the test, even more suspect is wanting to dictate when and how many test are to be conducted.

Pac never agreed to test, he can say whatever he wants to the media but when it was time to come to the table he didnt agree. Rach even said during the Mosley lead up that they cant demand ODST for shane because they never agreed to it themselves. Then Koncz comes out on 24/7 for Marg and says they would only ever agree to 7 days. Then they wanted to ask Juan to test last year and when Juan agreed to it as long as both would undergo the same test they backed off. It is a MYTH that he ever accepted testing.

Arum had no issue with taking the initial contract which had ODST included over to the Philippines for Pac to sign it, Pac is the one who made further demands.


See here what Arum says while in the Philippines:

In a lengthy conversation with www.insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports along with Dyan Castillejo ABS-CBN shortly after his arrival early Thursday morning, Arum said the Mayweather camp through Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer had agreed to the terms of the fight but wanted it to take place on March 13. Arum told us then he had to get Pacquiao to sign-off on the date otherwise it would be bust and the fight may never happen.

The when He fillany met with Manny, it was manny who made ADDITIONAL DEMANDS!!!

PROOF:

“I had a meeting this morning and we went over all the points and now I have to go back to the United States and sit with the Mayweather people and finalize some very minor aspects and then we’ll have an announcement sometime next week.

AND THEN KONCZ WITH THE NAIL:

"Manny has some additional requirements, requests, which Arum didn't think was a problem," Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, added in an updated AP report.

ONLY ONE THAT MADE ADDITIONAL DEMANDS WAS PAC EVEN AFTER HE GOT 50/50, GLOVE SIZE, WEIGHT ETC...

Again that holds no weight when there are articles and video evidence to the contrary. You dont know what floyd would have done, what we do know is when negotiations happened floyd agreed to the terms and it was pac who wouldnt agree to OSDT,m which was the only demand he made. Everything else that happened after that wasnt ever serious negotiation, Arum pronounce the fight dead and removed himself from negotiations not even a full week after it started, only to then lie about what happened in mediation and get called out on it by the judge.

Because he agreed to term Scar, which was good enough for Arum to take the contract to Manny for him TO SIGN WHICH HE DIDNT.

What ruined the fight was manny not agreeing to the test..ever. Its Manny who even in the lead up to the clottey fight said he wouldnt agree to those test because of weakness and other nonsense. That what ruined the fight, Mediator even put that out there as the reason the two sides never agreed.

If you cant find anything then you can easily research the events in december of 2009.

So we playing that game Scar?

I can do the same with pac and co. Videos of them flat out lying for days.

Again ODST was in the contract that Arum took over to pac, Arum didnt have a problem with what he was taking his client, Arum got everything he wanted only to return empty handed because pac made further demands


Again:

"Manny has some additional requirements, requests, which Arum didn't think was a problem," Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, added in an updated AP report.

Arum forseen what was going to happen if pac didnt sign:

Arum told us then he had to get Pacquiao to sign-off on the date otherwise it would be bust and the fight may never happen.

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Nobody thought pac would refuse that, not even Roach, Roach was caught on cam chuckling at the notion of the test and said thy were going to call floyd's bluff. Arum also didnt see it as a problem because he took the contract to pac to sign off on it because they got everything they wanted. Pac declined either because he was dirty or didnt want to fight. Really no other way to slice it. And again you keep giving YOUR REASON AS TO WHY PAC REJECTED TESTING BUT THAT ISNT WHAT PAC, ROACH OR ARUM SAID WAS THE REASON FOR NOT TESTING. IN WHICH THEY GAVE NUMEROUS BOGUS REASONS.

I can't believe you can't see through the obvious and pitiful mind games that Mayweather played back then which the media had none of. He baited Pacquiao by insulting him and demanding that crap because he knew it would be turned down, then he later went out barking "I told you! I told you! He's cheating!". Fact it man, Mayweather never wanted this fight. Fact is, if Mayweather wants a fight, regardless of opponent, he WOULD make it happen.

You are being intellectually dishonset. There is no way for anybody to know what anybody else would turn down until they do it. Plus after pac rejected it he then was caught on cam during the hatton fight taking blood test leading up to the fight. This then forced him to change his stance, he also before that requested a 30 day cutoff and finally wouldnt accept the 14 day cutoff as prvoen by the mediator. None of your claims hold up to documented facts Scar. I can run off articles/ interviews from pac's side that back up what im saying and i have yet to see anybody thats defending pac give any proof from the dec 09 negotiations that floyd ducked the fight, all evidence leads to the contrary.

No he didnt, testing was in the original contract, Arum and Roach didnt see a problem with it, Roach even went as far as laughing at the notion of testing. What ruined it was pac NEVER AGREEING TO ODST.

There were no serious negotiations after dec 09..none. Arum never came to the table with pac agreeing to ODST, as a matter of fact Arum never came to the table at all. Instead he opted for WWE style coundown clocks and lying on judges. Him removed himself from negotiations not even 10 days into them. He never had any intentions of making the fight.

This is what was resorted to after Arum wouldnt even bother picking up the phone or when he did look at the caller ID couldnt figure out why Richard was contacting him, that or he still couldnt figure out where floyd was getting his guarantee from. Arum was pathetic at best through the whole thing.

No, you dont know what he would demand, what we do know for a fact is when negotiations took place floyd ARGEED TO EVERYTHING THEY WANTED AND ARUM WAS SATISFIED. Enough that he took it to many for him to sign only to come back empty handed because manny made additional demands.

We forget that Manny is the one who also almost broke down negotiations for his dlh and hatton fights because he wanted more money and extra demands.

 

Arum's a schmuck. We all know that. But unless you're telling me he has mind control powers over Floyd, that still doesn't change Floyd's making it painfully obvious he never wanted this fight and wasting everyone's time.

All he had to say was that he'd never deal with Arum from day one and leave it at that. The rest was always fluff and BS.

 

ODST was never agreed to..ever. There is countless interviews/articles from team pac, roach and arum that they never agreed during negotiations.