How does Felix Trinidad do in todays 147 and 154 divisions?

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  1. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey now, against winky he was out of prime, and Winky was a sensational fighter anyway so its not that bad losing so a great like him. I also had Oscar well ahead until round 10, but make no mistake, Oscar never fought like that vs anyone else and showed tito a max amount of ring respect in that fight, and Oscar was on point, literally the best 9 rounds he had ever boxed until he gassed down the stretch. Losing to a prime beast like Oscar is also not a bad thing really. Both Oscar and winky would also rip up this era of fighters, well winky would just UD them all lol
     
  2. Flexb

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    Oscar implemented his gameplan to perfection rounds 1 to half way through the 10th and I think that is when he hit the wall and gassed. I remember Merchant saying to Foreman " do you think Oscar can keep this type of movement up all night?" Foreman said " you bet, he's in incredible shape". Was right about Oscar's shape but his legs were starting to shake from all the moving combined adrenaline sucking the energy out of him. But yea Tito couldn't win that type of boxing match, his only chance was if Oscar stuck for too long and landed his left hook on him. I personally wish Oscar would have fought him the way he fought Mosley or most others, just bouncing in one spot setting up his left hook. He was quicker than Trinidad and had more than enough power to put him down had he actually sat down on his punches. Tito also had enough power to hurt and probably put Oscar down and Oscar's camp decided to take the boxing route since it was safer and guaranteed a W. However they didn't add Don King into the equation. lol
     
  3. Mr Pibb

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    Winky was out of his prime too.


    Tito's wobbling as.s did NOTHING at 147 for SEVEN years until he fought Oscar and looked like a confused mummy.
     
  4. Flexb

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    That is true about Winky. Tito did beat whitaker 1.5 years after Oscar did but Whitaker was showing drastic decline in that fight so safe to say he was basically shot. I think other notables were Oba Carr, Camacho lol and Campas who was undefeated at 56-0 when Tito beat him, but definitely not a stellar resume.
     
  5. JMotrain

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    Yeah I guess since Trinidad went up to 160, I threw GGG out there. The era right now is fairly weak for 147-154. I would give Lara, Mayweather, and Pacquaio shots at winning. I'd still favor Tito over all of them.

    Mayweather would probably do just enough to lose a close fight. Pacquaio is somewhat faded at this point, I think Trinidad would have the ability to knock him out. Lara is good part of me feels like he might be gunshy against Trinidad. He would need a higher output to win IMO.
     
  6. Mr Pibb

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    tito stayed in his place at WW.

    He saw some helluva fighters come and go and not once challenged himself.
    He never fought another Champ until SEVEN years into his WW career when he fought Oscar and looked like a lost mummy.

    Then he moved up and fought overrated Vargas and Reid at 154 along with a few nobodies .....then onto 160 where he fought the horrible Joppy then got obliterated by Hopkins.

    If tito was good enough to beat Floyd he would have at least one 2 rounds against Hopkins and Winky:lol:

    Trinidad put all his weight on his front foot....Floyd would tear that shi.t to shreds.
     
  7. Flexb

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    GGG is a throw back to these great fighters. The man has a better amateur record than Floyd and even Oscar did, with a silver medal, has the best KO record in history at his class. Yes it's a weaker era for sure, but nobody today is beating GGG. He's a smart boxer and his power hurts solid fighters both downstairs and upstairs. I can't wait till he gets his shot, I believe he will be the PPV king inside 2 more years.
     
  8. Mr Pibb

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    Tito wanted no parts of Pernell when he was a Champion at WW.

    He wasn't looking for Quartey or Jose Luis Lopez either.

    Campos was horrible....he didn't have a single recognizable opponent on that padded record of his.
     
  9. Flexb

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    The thing about Trinidad is he just keeps coming, even if you have the power to hurt him which Floyd doesn't. Floyd has never faced that kind of power mixed with a snapping quick left hook. Yes Floyd is the obvious better boxer, but wonder what would happen with the terminator tito coming forward so aggressively the entire fight walking through Floyd's shots, the question really is would Tito be able to land anything significant? If he did, it's a wrap for Floyd. But Floyd wouldn't be standing still for a second, if we all thought Oscar was on his bike when he faced Tito, my god Floyd would be on his motorbike. lol
     
  10. JMotrain

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    Just because Winky Wright and Hopkins could beat Tito doesn't mean Mayweather would be able to. He is a naturally smaller man than both Hopkins and Wright. Both guys have iron chins. One shot could easily KO Mayweater. Also, I don't see Mayweather being able to impose himself on Trinidad (like Wright and Hopkins did). He could get on his bike for 12 rounds, sure but it isn't not a foregone conclusion he wins IMO.
     
  11. Mr Pibb

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    GG isn't a throwback to anything "great"

    Smart boxers don't pull back with their hands down.:deal

    He's just a decent fighter in a dead division.
    He will never be a PPV king this side of his wildest dreams.
     
  12. Flexb

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    Quartey vs Tito would have been very interesting. I think that's a pick em fight. Both men probably taste the canvas, one of them going down 1 or 2 more times. Probably goes to a decision because both of them have balls of steel and huge hearts, maybe SD for whichever one
     
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    I think he will. People are starving for a fighter that hurts and finishes opponents at the elite level. Time will tell but my bet is he's P4P #1 in 2-3 years with a few more fights.
     
  14. Mr Pibb

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    Naturaly smaller my as.s.

    Hopkins said it best:

    "Tito was a middleweight when he was at 147"

    A fighter that puts all his weight on his front foot would never beat Floyd.

    If Tito had the goods to beat Floyd he did a damn good job hiding it.:lol:
    Mayweather fights and beats bigger guys...Tito....not so much.
     
  15. JMotrain

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    Who has Floyd fought who is bigger than Tito?

    Tito didn't have the greatest footwork. True but if he found his range against Mayweather, one bomb is all it would take to get the KO. Also Mayweather isn't aggressive by nature, he could easily lose just by not being active enough.

    Yes of course Mayweather could win the fight but he would have to fight a perfect fight. *****s like yourself think Mayweather wins every mythical matchup; It is comical.