Which Heavyweights fall from Rocky's right?

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  1. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The right hand that floored Walcott in their first fight? I am interested to hear opinions on this and how much power is needed to knock pretty much any man out. Who takes the right and who crumbles? For example, would Lewis go if hit with the same shot; or Liston? Not debating the relative merits of fighters, just the quality of one punch.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    a punch like that perfectly timed could hurt anyone from Lennox Lewis to JL SULLIVAN ...Walcott survived some big punchers in beating the murders row black heavyweights and only the Brown Bomber in the 2nd fight caught a well -conditioned JJW in a buzz-saw 6 punch combo that no man could have survived....McCall & Rahman were big men but cant really say they were elite punchers...good punchers YES

    Can Marciano land that perfect punch as he did with Layne, Walcott, Charles, etc. but if he did it would have an impact for sure
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No one walks away from it easily , that's for sure .. maybe a Mercer , Chivalo or an Oliver McCall absorb it but no one sneezes at it ..
     
  4. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what I was getting at: How do you go about measuring power of punches merely by reacting to their impact? It's obviously a perfect punch, and did it's job; I was just picturing it landing on Dempsey or Ali.

    I think this punch may have been redundant against the taller fighters like Lewis or the Klitshko's because it would become an overhand right and would be very hard to deliver, but for reachable guys it would be devastating.
     
  5. DaveK

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    Whoever it hit, if they were still on their feet, they'd most likely be holding on for dear life in a clinch...
     
  6. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not many could survive a perfectly thrown "Suzie Q"....
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jesus Christ All****ing Mighty.

    Walcott ate about 6 of the same right hands earlier in the fight. It wasn't until he was bounding off the ropes and tired as a 38 year old man in the 13th round of his 70th fight that it had the effect it did.

    Let me in on a little secret, friends. Just about all elite heavies punch very, very hard.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    BS..... perfectly timed powerful punch, late power in a grueling fight 13th round and Walcott was fit as a fiddle...some heavyweights can not fight 10 rounds...the question asked was would that punch hurt or KO anyone and if it landed it certainty would KO or hurt anyone badly
     
  9. Seamus

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    I have watched that fight twice in the past couple months. An already tired Walcott shot his wad in the 11th and was begging to be KO'd afterward. Like I said, Marciano lands half a dozen similar rights in the fight, just none against a Walcott that tired and moving into the punch.
     
  10. Seamus

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    new fangled phone!
     
  11. Seamus

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    Time was when that's all a man needed. Now these new fangled contraptions just gurbulate all my good wordsmithin'.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    While this is true, how many elite heavies have the stamina and willpower to land their best late in the fight as Rocky did? Very few.

    I have seen heavy hitters like Tua punk out, and others like Foreman gas. Other power hitters like Shavers and Morrison, who I think hit harder than Rocky had shaky chins. Others like Dempsey or Tyson were front runners, meaning they were not as dangerous later in the fight.

    So its really Rocky's stamina, solid but untested on the higher levels durability and will power that made him dangerous despite his relatively small size. It took him on average 9 rounds to win in his championship fights. He wasn't blowing the class away of his time, outside of the 2nd Walcott fight, where I feel Walcott opted not to get up until he heard 10, then was fine.
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    :lol:

    You would read this and think an exhausted Walcott didn't have any legs and just collapsed from a good but not very unique punch. Like the Bowe/Holyfield III knockout or something.

    Than you watch the footage, and you see a single punch reduce an alert fighter into a corpse instaneously, and hear what sounds like a gun shot echo in the arena as the punch collides into his jaw. The whole damn crowd collectively groaned at the sound of it. Walcott looks dead as he hangs on the ropes, it's scary ****.

    But you know..
     
  14. Seamus

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    No. It was a hell of a shot, powerful and immaculately timed. I am just trying to put it into context. Let's put it this way, I don't think Walcott gets caught so open and flush with that shot in the 1st or even the 8th. You can view it in a vacuum if it pleases you.
     
  15. ribtickler68

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    The point of the thread was to ask the question, not to claim any mythical qualities for Marciano. Do you think it was a great shot or not? Obviously you bring the size argument in again, but remember Holyfield was badly wobbled by Bert Cooper. Are you suggesting that was a better punch than Rocky landed on JJW?

    I think you are obsessed with bodybuilder muscles. Jersey Joe wasn't a toothpick, you know!