Why the Klitschko's are unappreciated?

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  1. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    They are intelligent, in shape, white eastern europeans, so that takes care of most of US. Also, Wlad turned the biggest fight of HW in the last 10 years into the most ridiculous display of John Ruiz-ism since, well, John Ruiz, so that took care of some European fans.

    Even I, a big fan of K-bros since amateur days, was yelling at the TV when I was watching the Povetkin fight. Wlad is so much better than that, its infuriating.
     
  2. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    he probably has 4 by now.
     
  3. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Guys did way more PED's back in the 90's. The testing protocols were a joke compared to present day. On a level playing field the Klychko's are a force in any era.

    Why do you think Foreman had success coming back. His power seemed to actually improve and he walked through all sorts of punishment. PED's drove the 90's.

    Klychko's could not afford to use as much stuff because they fought in Germany where they actually tested you By the early 2000's everyone was testing. Partly because U.S. Congress deceided that baseball players hitting home runs was unacceptable. So PED use by professional athletes suddenly became taboo.
     
  4. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1- They are not black.

    2- They are not American.

    3- They are not unrespectful on their opponents, they don't act like ****s, they don't duck opponents, they don't talk big, they have never been in prison. To be dirty, overaggressive and unsporty is a positive aspect in the american culture.

    4- They are not black.

    5- They are not black.

    6- They are not black.

    7- They are not black, even half black would be more than enough. Even a quarter black would be more than enough to consider them full black, but no, they ain't. Would at least they be slightly brown, and muslim... but no, so they can't be accepted.

    8- They are not black.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    admit it, if they weren't white, you wouldn't look twice in their direction
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are easily disproven. Both K brothers dealt with journeymen in devastating style:

    Vitali dealing with a tomato can

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    Wlad dealing with a tomato can

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    :deal:deal:deal
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that's true, Vitali only loses to good fighters like Lewis and Byrd.

    so basically Vitali is the king of tomato cans.
     
  8. Germanicus

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    Like any other fighter, or for that matter any other human being, I could care less of the nationality, or the skin color. If we were to judge Wladimir Klitschko, on paper or from still photographs we would think he was a great fighter. But the record and photos lie. Wladimir has 2 settings anymore, jab and clinch. He's 17 years into a career that will end without any career defining wins. In fact looking back, he will be remembered more for his spectacular losses, and the manner in which he caved. Hard to think of a greater physical specimen, who was so incredibly vulnerable. He has ruled over a diminished Heavyweight division. Great record...Yes. Great physical specimen...Yes. Great fighter...No.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For the record, Lamon Brewster regards Lionel Butler - a guy with a 49% KO ratio - as a harder hitter than anyone he fought.

    ...Shows you how stats can be totally misleading. :good
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has a lot in common with Mike Tyson :deal
     
  11. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No no no, that acolade wholly belongs to Vitali

    you see Tyson beat bums, good fighters and a 2 greats. there was a progression there with the quality of his opponents. Unlike Vitali, where its been bum after bum after bum
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope, Tyson didn't beat a single "great" (oh please don't come back telling us how a retired Holmes was a "great" win for Mike). Just like Vitali. Both have a career of beating mediocre fighters, whenever someone fought back they lost.

    See you can't **** on Vitali without pissing on Tyson. You just make yourself look like a fool.
     
  13. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Admit it, if they were black, you would consider them the goats.
     
  14. fists of fury

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    Oh but they do...people from all around the globe* are saying it.

    *Except Germany and Ukraine
     
  15. Azzer85

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    no Tysons career was greater than Vitalis. Larry Holmes was a great as was Michal Spinks.

    Tyson kos Spinks in 91 seconds kos Holmes in 4
    Vitali loses to Byrd and loses to Lewis. See the difference.

    Most of Lewis best wins, yes Lewis who beat up Vitali, are Tyson leftovers.