Joe Louis Vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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So Ali got dropped by Henry Cooper.

I'll see your Ali getting dropped by Henry Cooper (and getting up and going on to win) and raise you Wlad getting blown away and humiliated in less than 5 minutes by a 38-year-old, fat golfer.

 

So Duran couldn't have beaten today's LW's?

Spinks and Foster couldn't have beaten today's LHW's?

Ali couldn't have beaten today's HW's?

Ray Robinson couldn't have beaten today's WW's?

Henry Armstrong couldn't have beaten today's FW's etc?


Need I go on?


Stop generalising and embarrassing yourself!


If you were correct, then everybody would agree that today's MW, HW's, WW's etc, etc, are the best of all time.

Is this era of MW's the strongest era of MW's?

Look at the state of the HW division.

It's widely regarded as one of the weakest ever era's.


Boxing has NOT progressed as a whole, and today's top guys are NOT the greatest fighters of all time.

 

Two tonne Tony was savaged. Whats your point. Louis could fight fire with fire. Wlad can not.

 

Most of todays heavyweights can't even do things like throw a hook off a jab or a subtle bolo punch and even simply parrying and body feints seem difficult for them, this includes Wlad.

It also shows in certain boxing fans too when you see people talking about Mayweathers shoulder rolls and check hooks as if they are something new he has brought to the sports.

 

This video of Joe Louis will blow your mind..

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R78hdxpRfws

 

So let me get this straight. If 'everybody' agrees on something then it must be true? You realize that many scientific facts are widely disbelieved by the public? Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions

Regarding Ali beating today's HWs and Sugar Ray Robinson fighting today's MWs: History has shown that athletes skill level progress decade by decade, in varying levels depending on the development on new technology and training science. Thus a fighter from the 1970s will have a better chance competing with modern day peers than a fighter from 1870.

See I am not saying Ali or Foreman would have zero chance against modern day SHWs; they would have to fight an uphill battle but they'd have their moments. I am saying guys from 100 years ago would have zero chance. The 60-70 years in development make a big difference. In all sports, not just boxing.

 

Here's the great Jesse Owens winning Olympic Gold over 100 meters

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The world's best athlete of 90 years ago, Jesse would looks like a freaking amateur if you put him in a 2013 State College championship competition. Just like Dempsey and Louis would look like primitive amateurs if they were put in the ring with modern day HWs.

 

All these are references to borderline misconceptions that don't require an opinion in life, unless you have to go out and look for them. Personally I don't believe any of this list, and know I would need to go look at them if I wanted to make a decision about them. If one doesn't do that then you are bound to come out with a crap opinion.

Hes referring to opinions on fighters that have been generally thought about, measured and then formed.

They are completely different things.

 

The best sprinters of today would look diminished if you placed them in Jesse's environment of training on cinder tracks, archaic starts and apparel.

You don't have a point on this, but if that wasn't bad enough, furthermore to draw a parallel between running in a straight line and a tactical battle is ludicrous. Fast sprinters aren't making the best boxing champions, far from it, and the worlds strongest men aren't ever HW champions of the world.

 

Does this past champions couldn't compete with modern champions also apply to the lower weights?

If so how about:

Amir Khan vs Ray Robinson? Or maybe Shawn Porter vs Roberto Duran? What do you think?

 

and more importantly no PED's

 

atsch
You don't know shi.t from supper.

Jesse Owens didn't have starting blocks...he ran in STEEL CLEATS and on a cinder track.

Put the fastest man in the world in steel cleats and take aways his starting blocks and see how fast he runs on a DIRT TRACK

Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis are 10xs better than the guys than Chris Byrd and Lamon Brewster..not to mention Ross Purrity and corry Sanders...

They'd have no trouble at all from any of todays sad HWs.

 

probably lol, though there are probably some east german octagenerian women with moustaches who would disagree who knows when they started cheating with drugs. I am sure Hitler would have loved drug use for creating his madcap Aryan superrace.

 

and hes not saying hes perfect.


only this is evident - you want to claim he said that.

So I ask, what is your purpose in putting words in peoples mouths on THIS occasion.