Why are so many ppl picking Martinez over Cotto?

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  1. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Even if u think Mayweather isnt a 154 fighter, thats the weight they fought and thats the closest fight Mayweather has been in since Castillo. with that defense that Cotto go thru, compared to no defense Martinez, Cotto is gonna have alot of chances to rock martinez's world
     
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  2. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    50/50 fight for me.
     
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  3. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because chavez is a legit 160 as opposed to cotto being a legit 147.

    prime sergio is capable of throwing 700 to 900 punches a fight whereas cotto throws 400-500...at jmw.
     
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  4. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Cant argue with that. Im just arguing with people saying Cotto has no shot or only has a shot if Martinez is shot. i dont see. martinez has been down more then any other champ i seen lately, dont know how Cotto doesnt at least drop him once.
     
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  5. nicamarvin

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    well Maybe because kelly pavlick, Chavez Jr, Paul Williams would Ruin and Beat the **** out of cotto?..... :bbb
     
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  6. MrGlass

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    Martinez is better than Cotto.

    But Martinez looked like a fighter who has become an old man in his last two fights. He doesn't have that same dynamic handspeed anymore, it looks like has trouble pulling the trigger as well, which is a clear sign of a shot old fighter.

    Martinez will be 39 years old going into the fight
     
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  7. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmmm...someone said this A LONG TIME AGO.:think

    :hi:
     
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  8. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't have to be an expert 2 guys on the down side of their career one is a middle the other is a welter common sense going with the bigger, stronger fighter.
     
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  9. non-stop

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    KEY factor will be size in this fight thats it.
     
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  10. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    yea and Chavez jr was the bigger stronger fighter too...i think he won 1 round against Martinez :hi:
     
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  11. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    none of those fights matter, its Cotto vs Martinez.

    Martinez has been knocked down in 4 of his last 5 fights or something like that. why u ask?? Because he keeps his hands down. Cotto will drop him again no doubt, not sure if he can finish him off.

    Im still dropping $2000 on Cotto by KO, gonna be a good summer and bump this thread for u goof balls while i chill at the beach :rasta
     
    buckdacious, Dec 30, 2013
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  12. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl more likely you'll have plenty of sand but no water in that 115 degree vegas heat this summer, 2 grand light.
     
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  13. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, we don't know how they will show up, but we know that:

    1- Martinez is a proper middleweight, with a huge reach, comparable to a light heavyweight one.

    2- Cotto is really short for a middleweight, and at middle he doesn't have stamina and a reach under the average.

    3 - Martinez's stamina is insane, it's not a case that he was a cyclist until his 20s.

    4- Martinez's skills, determination, bravado and willness are enough to make him demolish a light heavyweight opponent in the ring (not a very skilled one, but still); he's not called "maravilla" for nothing.

    5- he's still the middleweight linear champion, unlike Cotto that has never been a good, let alone great, middleweight.

    6- The chin. Martinez took light heavy's blows for 12 rounds, without being even wobbled. Only tireness made him vulnerable. No middleweight ever seriously hurt him, ever. Cotto will have difficulties to even land clean, a knock out is totally out of the question.

    So, all we have makes to think that it will be a demolition job, a one sided match in favour of the Maravilla, for faded he may be. Cotto took the fight only for the payday.
    Respect to him, hes a brave warrior, but he never had business at middle.
     
    RememberingC.S., Dec 30, 2013
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  14. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Chavez rehydrated up close to 175-180 lbs... That's a light heavyweight/cruiserweight.
     
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  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Good Post :good

    Only thing I disagree is a KO is totally out of the question. Martinez has been down more then any other champ these days. i see no reason why Cotto cant drop him either.
     
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