Overrating punchers who wreck bums with style but haven't faced A tier opposition yet

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  1. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    golovkin did far better against rosado than kid chocolate did and against macklin than sergio did. they both ran from him. stick that in your obsession with his resume.
     
    shoe, Dec 29, 2013
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  2. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Punchers tend to look good against weak opposition. I don't rate Quillin anymore.
     
    Faerun, Dec 29, 2013
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  3. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aren't they all decent punchers though?
     
    Bub, Dec 29, 2013
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  4. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i don't get what you're trying to say. quillin is a puncher and look bad against rosado.
     
    shoe, Dec 29, 2013
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  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    David Tua belongs on this list, he never knocked out a single durable fighter ever. He was the wilder of the 90s, but unlike wilder, he actually stepped up (and lost)

    Moorer, maskaev, rahman, all guys with dodgy chins and thse are tuas bst wins
     
    Azzer85, Dec 29, 2013
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  6. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't say. Tyson immediately comes to mind.
     
    bremen, Dec 29, 2013
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  7. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a prime example no doubt.
     
    Faerun, Dec 29, 2013
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    Tua had a good chin though
     
    gmurphy, Dec 29, 2013
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    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :yep
     
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  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is nothing new. Tyson wrecked 20 bums before challenging Berbick and went into the fight a 3:1 betting favorite.
     
    madballster, Dec 29, 2013
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  11. IndicaGold

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    you CANNOT have a thread like this WITHOUT Windmill Wilder. Unproven puncher, 100% KO ratio, knocked down by Harold Sconiers
     
    IndicaGold, Dec 29, 2013
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  12. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Indeed. Why is it that people don't learn though? How could Lemieux or Kirkland ever get so big without having faced anyone with a pulse? Being a puncher simply isn't that big a deal if you had no opportunity to test your boxing skills. Eventually, an adversary will not succumb to your punches or has figured you out and dodges them with ease - that's where your boxing skills, which were not required in crushing bums, kick in. And unless that has happened, I refure to rate punchers highly.
     
    Faerun, Dec 29, 2013
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  13. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody rates him. So yes, I can have a thread like this without him.
     
    Faerun, Dec 29, 2013
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  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Faerun, I agree with you there. I think casual people think its all about having a punch (and a chin), so they get carried away with a record of KO 1/2. They don't realize punch and chin are two of maybe 6-7 crucial components that all work together.
     
    madballster, Dec 29, 2013
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  15. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what?

    Slow motion Angulo did better against Rosado than GG:hi::hi::hi:

    He vaporized Rosado in two rounds and didn't get touched....it took GG 7 and he needed endswell.

    Gabe isn't even a MW.

    Time for GG to challenge himself..:deal

    Ya'll seem reluctant for him to do so....maybe you aren't confident in his skills.
     
    Mr Pibb, Dec 29, 2013
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