If size means nothing... Could a PRIME Calzaghe beat Mike Tyson??

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  1. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm didnt crack the Ring Magazine P4P list until 2006...when he beat Lacy. Thats 8 or 9 years afyer he became wbo champion....lmao!
     
  2. Super Hans

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    A list so credible it had Broner at number 5 once :patsch
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It gets better than that

    Look at this post I did on the 28th of this month. This was the Ring ratings on the web

    Yeah those ratings :lol:


    Edit its still like that
    So Broner is undefeated number 1 at LW noted as a WW champ and has a loss in the WW ratings and at number 10
     
  4. hussleman

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    BBC...had Hopkins beating Joe C! Fact!!!
     
  5. Super Hans

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    HBO had Calzaghe winning. Fact

    :hi:
     
  6. Bub

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    And many had it the other way around. Your point...?
     
  7. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins knocked down Joe C. and gave him a pizza face!
     
  8. bailey

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    Overall more had Calzaghe winning, far more.

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    . I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111 at that time.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.
    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.
     
  9. Super Hans

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    TBR have Paulie in and not Broner at Welterweight.

    I have no problem with Broner not being in it though because Paulie clearly beat Broner and Broner got schooled by Maidana (who got schooled by Alexander, who got schooled by Porter at Welter) in his only other Welterweight fight

    The question is whether Paulie being ranked in the top 10 is justified or not.
     
  10. bailey

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    A tiny little cut from the first round that didnt get any worse and you call that a pizza face. You really are trying to rewrite history.
    Pascal and Mercado knocked Hopkins down twice so what?
    Calzaghe wasnt on wobbly legs got up pressed forward took control and won. Deal with it :lol:. Hopkins dropped to the floor as if looking for a way out
     
  11. bailey

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    I think its more odd that Broner is undefeated number 1 at LW and with a loss and at number 10 at WW
     
  12. Vinegar Hill

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    Another infantile thread