Which Heavyweights fall from Rocky's right?

For once Marciano beat Walcott to the punch.

 

Seamus was right. Marciano hit Walcott with similar shots earlier in the fight. It's all about consistency, and Marciano didn't consistently hit people with his Suzie Q.

You mention " good punchers " yet both McCall and Rahman hit Lewis with good punches, which most any fighter can throw. Conversely good " punchers " hit Lewis and had less effect than the 2 shots that Ko'd him.

So I don't know if that shot that hit Joe would have the same effect on the 240 + pounders we have today ( with the possible exception of Vlad ) but I doubt it.

 

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Either you think he did or you didn't. This reads like a damn riddle.

 

While I don't fully agree on Dempsey being a front runner this assessment is mostly accurate. The real marvel of Marciano was that he was able to carry such a punch into the 13th round. Very few fighters are able to retain power late. Him and Joe Louis but many other fighters fade-Foreman, Tyson neither one would be able to deliver that type of shot in the 13th round, let alone Shavers and other such heavy hitters.

 

Conversely none of the fighters you mention were only 185 lbs, so the likelihood is they would be tiring by the 13th round.

 

Dempsey knew his body very well, and when the occasion demanded paced himself very well. If he felt that he might be better off with not shooting his load in the early rounds he could weaken his opponent by his measured and vicious body blows weakening his foe til he resumed his gunning for a ko later in the bout as he did in 1920 against Bill Brennan, when he flattened Brennan with a one-two that broke Brennan's ankle from the
fall to the canvas in the TWELFTH Round...Dempsey was more than just a swarmer....He knew the ropes...

 

As to WHICH heavyweight falls from Marciano's right hand to Walcotts chin
in the 13th round ?
Answer EVERY heavyweight !!! Some posters today are obsessed with size...There is no
mastodon heavyweight today who is any stronger than was Primo Carnera, nor any braver
and the 205 pound Max Baer bounced Da Preem on the canvas like a yo yo...
We are not talking about boxing skills but the utter fact that whoever Marciano hit
with that perfectly leveraged right hand on the button in the 13th round visits LaLa land...
Say what you want about Jess Willard as a fighter, but he had a concrete chin astride a 255 lb body, and the 183 lb Dempsey massacred big Jess...
Years later the 198 lb Joe Louis crossed a right hand on a very strong man who was the
George Chuvalo of his era Paolino Uzcudun ,that drove Paolinos front teeth out along with his mouthpiece, rendering Uzcudun unconscious....So size has some advantages, but
it has it's drawbacks as well.

 

Then why on earth do we bother with pesky weight divisions?

Max Baer was a big guy despite his weight. 81 inch reach. 6-2 1/2. He had huge leverage and the athletic strength and finesse to maximize it. He was anything but a small heavyweight. Reminds me a bit of Herbie Hide who also punched very, very hard. Ask Riddick Bowe.

A question I have asked many a time, I will repeat again to silence in response. Where is the 185 pound, sub 70 inch reach plodding power puncher who rules the heavyweight division these days?

 

Foreman took out Moorer with one shot to rewin the title when he was an old man , it was in the 10th rd. I don't see why he couldn't carry that power for another 3 rds.
As Burt has said Dempsey stopped Brennan in the 12th.
it isnt that either lacked stamina ,its the fact that they were often fighting at a frenetic pace .Marciano was steady but never frenetic.
Sonny Liston ko'd few people late ,is that because he couldn't or because they couldnt take his power that long?

 

Old Man Foreman fought very conservatively against Moorer, letting him move around him all night and pick his spots while he absorbed punishment from his shell, refusing to throw his right until he had a perfect opening. I don't doubt Foreman could carry his power for 30 rounds by fighting in such a way.

Marciano chased Walcott around the ring for 13 rounds trying to trap him, constantly moving and weaving inside, feinting, taking hard counters, swinging and often missing with big power shots at an above average HW pace.

I think the difference should be apparent.

 

Walcott met him head on in several rounds he didn't have to chase him.

Marciano didnt set a fast tempo he set an incessant one.
It's all about the pace of the fight.That should be more than apparent, it should be glaringly obvious.

 

This is a rhetorical question that you know can't be answered.

Can youe name a fighter today who even tips the scales at 185?

185-200 was the optimum fighting weight for the unlimited class in the 40s and 50s. But with the installation of the Cruiser division, nobody is aiming to come into a fight at 185 anymore. No point to it.

With the more promising talents seeking more lucrative opportunties at LHW or HW, the cruiser division has remained one of the most barren in the sport. With a few exceptions of smaller men using it as a pit stop on the way up, it has largely been made up of HWs who are willing to drain down to 198-199 for a weigh in and opportunties they can't get above 200 lbs. A guy like Huck for instance would rather be a CW Champion than a HW contender.

 

-Maricano had to work hard for every punch he got off in that fight.

-And Foreman didn't set any pace against Moorer. He toughed it out in his shell and waited for an opening to come to him. This difference should be apparent.

 

Not Wlad. He wouldn't even get hit. He would go down from the WIND OF MARCIANO'S PUNCH, like he did when he went down from the WIND OF SANDERS' PUNCH.

 

my worthy adversary...Where is the 185 lb plodding puncher these days ?
Answer : Marciano is rotting in his grave today...The question was could a right hand perfectly thrown by Rocky Marciano ko the "giants" of today if
it connects, NOT who was more likely to win... In any field of sports there are certain exceptions to the rules such as "bigger" is better...And as
proven DOZENS of times a Bob Fitz, a Sam Langford, a Jack Dillon,
a Jack Dempsey, a Mickey Walker, a Joe Louis, and a Rocky Marciano hit
hard enough to render anyone unconscious regardless of size...