The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I honestly think Williams had the best style to give Floyd problems. Too bad that fight never happened.

    Other than that though, nah. He would've probably handled everyone who was around back then.
     
  2. Kel1981

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    In my opinion, yes. When there is a risk of a loss he's out of there.
     
  3. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sure it is...i saw your thread already. Marg a fight removed from being battered by Shane? a year removed from the ring due to suspension? plaster less.

    that ****er shouldn't have ever been allowed to box again.

    edit: how did marg earn the right to fight for the vacant wbo belt?
     
  4. boxing_master

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    pac could of stayed and not moved up if he was like floyd but no he tests himself by going up we all know 140 is pacquaios natural weight like 147 is floyds why does floyd keep comeing back to 147 like a chicken stay at 154 and test yourself:lol:
     
  5. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are bigger risks at WW today than in 07.:deal

    The idea that Floyd retired because of Margarito:lol: and Cotto is beyond stupid.

    If he was scared of Tony he would have been terrifeid of Oscar.
     
  6. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C'mon now lil mexican
    WW is hotter now than in 07.:deal

    Why isn't Floyd retiring now???

    Oscar was far more risky than Margarito and Cotto:yep
     
  7. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who are the big money fights at 154, Canelo and Cotto.
    Mayweather already jumped up to beat them at that weight.

    There is more money at 147 for Mayweather.
     
  8. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    Neither Mayweather nor Pacman are fighting at their 'best' weight, they are both campaigning way north of where they would be most dominant.
     
  9. progamer

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    lmao. maybe because in the ring dela was fighting pac instead of malignaggi?:rofl

    how is dela hoya's weight pac's problem?

    dela hoya opted to match pac speed for speed. they were thinking pac is small and cant hurt him. dela hoya trained for speed opting to lose weight months before the fight. it was specific strategy that bombed in their faces.

    like i said, pac has 1 fight at 135 when he was asked to fight dela hoya at 147. you think pac should go up 3 weight classes after only 1 fight at 135 to fight to fight oscar at 154?

    so fighting in his 7th div, jumping 2 weight classes after only 1 fight in his previous fight is not hard enough.

    lets make it at his 8div, 3 wegiht classes after 1 fight in his previous, to make it more difficult for pac because pac is so good. this is waht you are saying?

    pac tko9.





    has floyd ever done 2 weight classes in his whole carreer?

    who has done 3 weight classes in 2 fights in the history and dominated?




    pac has never established himself at 147 when he fought cotto.

    he went right back to 140 after beating de la hoya.

    so fighting a big ww at a c/w was justified. cotto went down 2lbs, pac went up 5lbs (not exactly accurate from their previous fights weigh in), but you get the idea. it was a fair catch weight.

    pac tko12.





    what is not fair c/w is a asking a guy to go up 9lbs and supposedly floyd to go down 3 lbs but cheated the guy by coming 2lbs heavier.

    so the 9-3lbs compromise c/w, suddenly became 11-1lb c/w. is this fair to you?

    floyd by boring decision.





    canelo has **** stamina for a guy who is in his 20's. m aybe he is already draiining at full limit at jmw.

    floyd asking for a c/w in a division he is a champion at, in his 5th division against a nobody who has **** stamina at full limit to begin with, is laughable.

    he took away the only chance the guy has, his size. this is fair c/w to you?


    floyd by another boring decision.




    lastly, margo is career ww.

    he was being asked to fight 3lbs above his career weight (he has had time to lose weight after a tune up at jmw) and pac was fighting in his 8TH div. this is unprecedented in history.

    not too long ago, pac was fighting david diaz. pac was outweighed, outsized by a guy with good stamina, volume puncher, granite chin. all the physical disadvactages you can think of, except speed.

    that was pac-margo in a nutshell.

    pac by beatdown of a lifetime, ud12 and made history straight to the guniness world records.


    deal with it.:hi:
     
  10. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    ^ this
     
  11. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A few weeks ago Floyd Sr was saying Pac would have to earn his shot at Mayweather by beating Guerrero and Canelo. Its all just talk. Each side is full of contradictions.

    The way I see it, Pac never had the power at 147 he was projected to have. He KO'd Hatton in one perfect punch but that was his only fight at 140. He fought a large part of his career below 130 so the fact that he has respectable, above average power at 147 is still an achievement. Mayweather had good power at 130-135 and in his early career but power doesn't usually translate up in weight. Broner is a good recent example.

    Pacquaio could still beat Mayweather because he has more speed, experience, stamina and skills (yes, skills) than most recent Mayweather opponents who lacked something in one or more areas. Would Mayweather be favourite? Yes, rightfully so. Is it a foregone conclusion? No. And it never will be even though people will try to give Mayweather the hypothetical win on paper.
     
  12. str1

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    CATCHweather fought Canelo at 152 not 154! Don't try to make it seem like Floyd is fighting them at their best weight.

    It works both ways, son. If Pac is criticized for fighting Cotto at 145 then Floyd deserves no credit either for that win.
     
  13. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    erm, they are separated by a good 3 weight classes:good

    pac>>>floyd.
     
  14. boxing_master

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    mayweather is a natural 147 pacquaio is not
     
  15. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    pac has not established himself at 147 (his 7th division) when he fought cotto, so the c/w against a big ww was justified.

    floyd was a champion at 154 (his 5th division) when he asked c/w at 152 against a nobody with **** stamina at full limit to begin with, whose claim to fame was going life and death with trout whose claim to fame was going life and death with shot to **** cotto.

    big difference.
     
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